[westernrider75]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Maybe I should revisit what I said........if a walker is walking on the right side and NOT facing the traffic then, of course, they cannot see me approaching them. Then, I WILL swing wide to avoid hitting them However, when a walker is walking facing the traffic and can see me approaching, they had better hop onto the grass and out of my way. Having said that, there have been times when a walker, facing the traffic, will play chicken and I will always give way to the stupid ones. Remember walkers........you will NOT be the victor when confronting a vehicle that will certainly hurt or kill you. Get our of the way!!!!!!!!

WOW, I’m pretty sure leaving it as the first post would have been better!

[Raywatkins]

I have read some but not all the comments.
For those who don’t give way even on roads, I suggest you consult the Florida Drivers Handbook.
It clearly sets out the order of precedence.
My understanding is that the same applies to MMP.
But forget the rules just be kind, it costs you nothing.

[PersonOfInterest]

I'm of the opinion that Multi Modal Paths allowing Carts, Bicycles and pedestrians are not a good idea. Even if there were rules to be followed who would enforce them? If you're giving the pedestrian the right of way then what about the situation with 4 pedestrians walking abreast on the path? Or Pedestrians on each side of the path walking opposite directions 2 abreast who are close to one another? Both situations take up virtually the whole width of the path.

Separate paths, one for Carts and one for Walkers and Bicycles would be a safer approach in my opinion

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

I'm of the opinion that Multi Modal Paths allowing Carts, Bicycles and pedestrians are not a good idea. Even if there were rules to be followed who would enforce them? If you're giving the pedestrian the right of way then what about the situation with 4 pedestrians walking abreast on the path? Or Pedestrians on each side of the path walking opposite directions 2 abreast who are close to one another? Both situations take up virtually the whole width of the path.

Separate paths, one for Carts and one for Walkers and Bicycles would be a safer approach in my opinion

I agree. When are you obtaining financing and when do you start construction????

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Yup......I'm a woman and will always stay in my lane. I never swing wide on any road unless I'm about to hit an obstacle. Walkers should be the ones who yield to any moving vehicle.

I also never go over the center line when driving an automobile. That is dangerous. I will never understand why drivers move to the left of the center line when a golf cart is coming up on their right in the MMP. There is room for both of you unless you are driving a huge truck with a wide load.

Wow! As a male driver who has driven well over a million miles let me say that I definitely will cross over the center line when no other vehicle is in the other lane to safely pass pedestrians and bicyclists on the side of the road. If I can’t do that due to another vehicle being in that other lane I slow down until that vehicle passes and then swing to the left to safely pass. I also will drive to the very right side of the road to allow trucks and other cars to safely pass people and bicyclists on their side of the road. Your insistence of not ever crossing over the center line is a very dangerous mindset. I remember an elderly woman where we used to live who insisted on not ever yielding or moving over for other vehicles as she thought she had the right of way. My wife was petrified by her dangerous driving. She died when a a distracted young driver crossed over into her lane. My wife said she probably was thinking that car should not be there and she stayed in the lane and did not take evasive action. To say you would never cross the center lane is a very dangerous statement.

[Lisuccia]

Originally Posted by Gladys Turnip

My husband & I have noticed something when walking on multi-modal paths.

First off I'll mention that we always walk on the left side (ie, into traffic), and that our observation only applies if there are no carts coming from behind us (fyi, if there are carts coming from both directions at the same time, we simply step off the path onto the grass, ceding the right of way).

So, when there is a cart coming at us (and no other carts, bikes, or walkers anywhere around), our observation is this: When MEN are driving the oncoming cart, they pull way over to their left, giving us wide berth which provides us with a comfortable safety buffer. On the other hand, WOMEN do not do this and instead (inexplicably) generally hold to their current lane on the right side of the path.

Suffice to say we don't understand this phenomenon, and if anyone does, we'd love to hear the reasoning. But in any case, we walkers would like to thank those cart drivers who swing wide left when approaching walkers, and we'd like to ask more (all) of you to please do the same (when you can). Thank you.

I am a woman and I always move over for walkers. If a cart is coming in the opposite direction, I slow down or stop until I can get out of their way.

[msilagy]

I belong to the Village Walkers and we walk 6 miles twice a week. Many of our routes can be for a time along a golf cart path. I have noticed the opposite - the women tend to slow down and couples, but men go flying by. Now this isn't always the case but seems more prevelant. Sometimes I yell slow down if they whiz by 10-12 walkers single file. It speaks to their courtesy and caring for others or not!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by msilagy

I belong to the Village Walkers and we walk 6 miles twice a week. Many of our routes can be for a time along a golf cart path. I have noticed the opposite - the women tend to slow down and couples, but men go flying by. Now this isn't always the case but seems more prevelant. Sometimes I yell slow down if they whiz by 10-12 walkers single file. It speaks to their courtesy and caring for others or not!

I haven't particularly noticed a gender difference when it comes to giving room to walkers on an MMP. Personally, I slow down and give a wide berth as long as it is safe to do so. My exception would be the bozo that yells "slow down", especially if I'm already slow. THEY do not get to tell me what to do. THEY are not the boss of me. THEY have no authority whatsoever. MY response to them would probably be less than polite.

[Bugface]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Yup......I'm a woman and will always stay in my lane. I never swing wide on any road unless I'm about to hit an obstacle. Walkers should be the ones who yield to any moving vehicle.

I also never go over the center line when driving an automobile. That is dangerous. I will never understand why drivers move to the left of the center line when a golf cart is coming up on their right in the MMP. There is room for both of you unless you are driving a huge truck with a wide load.

Wow!
😮

[Dkintzer]

Well said!

[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by MsSurfer

I will swing wide when I see pedestrians, however, I almost hit a walker just last week who insisted on walking on the MMP around a curve and hillside. I absolutely could not swerve to the left to avoid the man in the roadway because there was no line of sight for oncoming carts who might be going down that hill towards Colony. It seems you think putting yourself in jeopardy is a better idea than just moving to the grass in dangerous spots where carts would not be able to see you beforehand. I was inches away from hitting that man, and will not put myself in jeopardy by moving into an opposing lane when there is no line of sight of what is coming toward me because an idiot insists on his “right” to stay in the roadway. You walkers who insist on staying in the roadway with carts who have to navigate blind curves and hills only need to be hit one time to change your life forever.

Traveling at less than 20 mph how blind can a curve be?

[hosegooseman]

Originally Posted by Gladys Turnip

My husband & I have noticed something when walking on multi-modal paths.

First off I'll mention that we always walk on the left side (ie, into traffic), and that our observation only applies if there are no carts coming from behind us (fyi, if there are carts coming from both directions at the same time, we simply step off the path onto the grass, ceding the right of way).

So, when there is a cart coming at us (and no other carts, bikes, or walkers anywhere around), our observation is this: When MEN are driving the oncoming cart, they pull way over to their left, giving us wide berth which provides us with a comfortable safety buffer. On the other hand, WOMEN do not do this and instead (inexplicably) generally hold to their current lane on the right side of the path.

Suffice to say we don't understand this phenomenon, and if anyone does, we'd love to hear the reasoning. But in any case, we walkers would like to thank those cart drivers who swing wide left when approaching walkers, and we'd like to ask more (all) of you to please do the same (when you can). Thank you.

It’s simple: Men are better drivers !!! 😃🏎️

[jabacon6669]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Yup......I'm a woman and will always stay in my lane. I never swing wide on any road unless I'm about to hit an obstacle. Walkers should be the ones who yield to any moving vehicle.

I also never go over the center line when driving an automobile. That is dangerous. I will never understand why drivers move to the left of the center line when a golf cart is coming up on their right in the MMP. There is room for both of you unless you are driving a huge truck with a wide load.

You are so wrong. First off you must move left for any emergency vehicle up ahead. Not if you think you are going to hit them. But, for the safety of those doing their job. Secondly, All pedestrians and bikes would have the right of way over a motor vehicle even in the roadway. You don't give them the RoW and hit them. You'll find out soon even, that you will be held liable. Let's know the law.

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

I always wonder why some seem to think that a vehicle has the right of way over a pedestrian when in most states the ped is assumed to have the right of way, this is due to the fact that in a collision the damage done to a vehicle will be relatively minor compared to the pedestrian, MMP multi modal path, pedestrian, pedalcyclist and golf cart, in order of right of way to protect the most vulnerable

Right. Don't think pedestrians are bowling pins for vehicular pleasure. Even with crosswalk laws for pedestrians just hit one and see what Morgan and Morgan has to say about it.

Pretty sure only when you can proove you had no other option than hitting them, ie: it's dark out and pedestrian is dressed head to toe in black and steps out in front of you (even then, where your head lights working??) might you be found not at fault.

Breaks are made for stopping. Stearing wheels for turning. Pretty basic. Pedestrians have a duty to mitigate their damages as well.

Lots of people like to "play chicken" so if both parties are game then makes for a good "what's in your wallet?" moment. M&M loves that lol.

[Gunny2403]

The Ladies have Tunnel Vision and only feel safe by driving in their lane.