[nick demis]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!

Car dealers screwing someone. What a novel idea.

[LateBoomer]

Originally Posted by Geodyssey

"beyond the pale", indeed. (look it up)

yes, I know what it means. "outside of the bounds of acceptable behavior. Inappropriate."

yes, I thought the dealer's tactics in this case - posting a price on their page, then glibly adding $13K to the price, before taxes, tags, and yeah another $999 to the dealer, was ridiculous and to me unacceptable. and yes, beyond the pale, therefore.

your point is what?

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!

We all know it's going to happen but when someone will purchase a vehicle there with the overcharge and swear they received a great deal.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

yes, I know what it means. "outside of the bounds of acceptable behavior. Inappropriate."

yes, I thought the dealer's tactics in this case - posting a price on their page, then glibly adding $13K to the price, before taxes, tags, and yeah another $999 to the dealer, was ridiculous and to me unacceptable. and yes, beyond the pale, therefore.

your point is what?

Which brings up a question I was wondering about-----Has anyone born after the War of 1812 ever used the term "gobsmacked"???? Or is it some Midwest farm thing?????

[olgeezer]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!

The worse place to get ripped off on a car deal is the Honda dealership in Leesburg . Unless you hate money go to any other dealer. These guys are real rip off artists. They should all be arrested for taking advantage of the old people. Some horror stories come out of that dealership with the shady deals that they perform.

[Penglobal]

Originally Posted by olgeezer

The worse place to get ripped off on a car deal is the Honda dealership in Leesburg . Unless you hate money go to any other dealer. These guys are real rip off artists. They should all be arrested for taking advantage of the old people. Some horror stories come out of that dealership with the shady deals that they perform.

Agree 100%. Out of all the Jenkin new car dealerships, I personally believe that the JENKINS HONDA dealership in Leesburg is the most corrupt and dishonest new car dealership in the area.

To prove my point, I can assure you with 100% certainty that no one from the Jenkins dealership will respond on this board and dispute the fact that they don't target the elderly, primarily from The Villages.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Penglobal

Agree 100%. Out of all the Jenkin new car dealerships, I personally believe that the JENKINS HONDA dealership in Leesburg is the most corrupt and dishonest new car dealership in the area.

To prove my point, I can assure you with 100% certainty that no one from the Jenkins dealership will respond on this board and dispute the fact that they don't target the elderly, primarily from The Villages.

Most likely nobody from the dealership will ever see this

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Which brings up a question I was wondering about-----Has anyone born after the War of 1812 ever used the term "gobsmacked"???? Or is it some Midwest farm thing?????

Irregardless of that where do we get a good deal these days?

[LateBoomer]

not in the Leesburg/Ocala corridor.

I got the same car for $15K less BY PHONE yesterday in Tampa.


and then I got a thank you note today from the Jenkins sales rep. It was all I could do to not blast him for being part of a shyster company!!

I simply deleted the email

[worcester]

This may be a first for TOTV, Unanamous dislike for Jenkins Dealerships

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Irregardless of that where do we get a good deal these days?

Much better question than mine!

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Irregardless of that where do we get a good deal these days?

We only get good deals if we use “regardless” and not “irregardless”.

[gdennis317]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!

Most of the issue with Automotive prices, especially SUVs and Pick-ups has been the Computer Chip shortage. Here is info from an article I searched for and was published about two weeks ago.

"Taiwanese semiconductor companies are tailoring making chips for autos, so the chip shortage should be solved for autos in a few weeks, but other electronics' chip shortage problem persists," Pang said, adding that could delay shipments of some new model smartphones.

Hope they are correct as my Lease runs out in January. :-)

[HotRodBoy]

OMG! I hate hearing these stories! I worked for one of the "big 3" in Michigan prior to retirement earlier this year. I bought my retirement gift 2021 Corvette here in Michigan for MSRP (no employee discount) and have heard horror stories of dealers asking 25-30K over sticker for the same car around the country! Totally unacceptable but understandable!

We are moving down there this November and I researched prices for a slightly used 2019-2020 Buick Enclave and the prices down there are out of hand compared to Michigan. So, we will be buying here and either drive it or ship it down to out new pad down there. (It's rather inexpensive to truck a vehicle down there)

So the moral of the story is,..... do your research and price vehicles around the country as you might find a wide range of prices depending on regions. It's simple to have it shipped to your driveway.

[vettman01]

[QUOTE=LateBoomer;1989490]so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your

If you want to pay too much buy from Jenkins. They have more ways to add fees than anyone else. Best way to deal with them is know what you want for your car & what you should pay for a new car. Then add in sales tax and give them an out the door price. If they say no get up walk out. they will probably take the deal at your price or give you a good counter offer.