[Viperguy]

OH NO! Time for a little government intervention.

[Gpsma]

Originally Posted by Viperguy

OH NO! Time for a little government intervention.

I realize u are being sarcastic. BUT...yes its time for either the auto industry or government to stop this last vestige of a major industry selling a product by questionable bargaining.

Guess that started when horse traders began selling cars. But is has to stop.
Two people can buy the same car for different prices. Do we go to Publix and negotiate?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Which brings up a question I was wondering about-----Has anyone born after the War of 1812 ever used the term "gobsmacked"???? Or is it some Midwest farm thing?????

Not common usage in the East but a descriptive word that sounds like it’s meaning. It’s called onomatopoeia.

[LateBoomer]

well of course we could've stayed with our two 2020 cars. both good cars. but after moving up to TV, we decided that we don't need to insure 2 cars - one car and one golf cart is enough for us (and 2 bikes). So if we were going to go down to one vehicle, why not getting something we really wanted ? something a bit more luxurious! perhaps we will get past this need in 5 years, but for now, it was a a little present to ourselves in celebration of our retirement. And the two cars we traded in had high value - so we didn't have to pay that much more to get a luxury SUV instead. to us, it was worth it. Financially of course new cars are depreciating assets. We get that. But life is short and we wanted to drive in something we really loved

BOTTOM LINE YESTERDAY.

Went to Tampa, got the SAME car for a net of $17k less than Jenkins was offering. I'm still gobsmacked. They are a shady outfit or the lack of competition, combined with too many suckers around here, is making it easy for them to simply mark up their profit right up front. Glad we looked around. It was worth the 4 hours round trip yesterday to save $17K.

anyway, I got the car I wanted at a fair price especially considering the market and I'm pretty much done with Jenkins forever, unless it's a free warranty or recall item that needs to be addressed by the car company

[Babubhat]

Originally Posted by Pinball wizard

The following happened yesterday at Jenkins Hyundai Ocala.

I made an appointment to 'work the numbers' and purchase a car. It appears that the salespeople have no involvement in pricing as she immediately called over 'the manager'. I had a good idea (from doing research) what the car should cost as well as my trade-in. The manager came over, handed me the price breakdown and it was way out of line: by over $7,000. The first thing I noticed was the value they gave my trade-in: $4000. Carvana and others offered me $10,500 so his offer was way out of line. As soon as I said something he doubled it to $8000 but would not go any higher. He said he really didn't need my trade-in. At that moment, after trying to give me an extremely low ball offer on the trade-in, I said thanks for your time and left.

Some interesting items to note:
1. The manager sat down at the desk and never introduced himself to us.
2. He was short and abrupt with us.

On the other hand, our 'salesperson' we very nice and apologized for his actions.

The search goes on...

The worst dealer experience I have ever had by far and that was years ago. Felt like being in a Crazy Eddie store where they would not let you leave without purchasing something

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

I realize u are being sarcastic. BUT...yes its time for either the auto industry or government to stop this last vestige of a major industry selling a product by questionable bargaining.

Guess that started when horse traders began selling cars. But is has to stop.
Two people can buy the same car for different prices. Do we go to Publix and negotiate?

So you support government price controls??? Yes , in fact, you can negotiate with Publix. Refuse to buy at their price and go to another store.

[LateBoomer]

Jenkins tried to call me yesterday - while i was driving back to TV in my new car I didn't buy from them. I simply hung up

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Jenkins dealerships are the worst in the area. We had a horrible experience at their Honda dealership. If you are buying a Hyundai got to Clearmont Hyundai or even to Orlando or Tampa. Total BS at Jenkings!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Why would you buy a new car at this time? It doesn’t sound like something that can’t wait. Prices will eventually normalize.

[Penglobal]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

Jenkins tried to call me yesterday - while i was driving back to TV in my new car I didn't buy from them. I simply hung up

*****JUST ANOTHER REASON TO AVOID THE JENKINS DEALERSHIP ! *****


Congrats on the purchase and good for you for thinking outside the bubble for your new car purchase.

If I may suggest, the next time Jenkins calls you again, and I'm sure they will, once again offer them $17,000 less or the same exact price you got from the Tampa dealership. When they say it can't be done, then email them a copy of your invoice with a big smiley face. That will really ****off the salesman from JENKINS !


*****JUST ANOTHER REASON TO AVOID THE JENKINS DEALERSHIP ! *****

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Why would you buy a new car at this time? It doesn’t sound like something that can’t wait. Prices will eventually normalize.

A few months ago the world reopened and we needed a second car.

[geofitz13]

Originally Posted by jswirs

I grew up in the 50's, when "Honesty is the best policy", was practiced, most of the time. But we are now living in a different time. Too bad for us seniors, we have become "Soft targets".

Yup, the good old days in the 50's when odometer fraud was a constant. You had no idea of the value of the car, cause you didn't know the real mileage. Didn't really stop till the late 70s

[geofitz13]

Originally Posted by DAVES

I am far from a techno nerd. As far as companies making chips for cars, as I understand it the chips are custom proprietary. Due to electronic complexity and pollution standards the auto manufacturers cannot substitute some other chip that is not specified.

Modern production of most anything is just in time. It is expensive to hold parts to be assembled later. We suffer with this many times. Anyone but me remember when you needed a headlight, you went to Korvetts and you bought either the square one or the round one for like $1.99. Today, you need to buy the, whatever brand car you drive, you can only buy it from the dealer. It will cost you like $600 and you will only need to wait two months for it to come in from who knows where.

Wow, what misinformation and lack of understanding. I can go to almost any auto parts store to buy headlights. Some times, when dealing with a brand new model, you are forced to the dealership because spares are not readily available.
The chips are generic, made by only two or three companies in the world. What makes them different is the programming, which is unique to each model.
Oh yeah, what is Korvetts?? Really, I do know. But they went the way you want car dealerships to go.
So when you need service, you are going to be on your own.
I cannot even guess how many times in 35 years I saw dealerships do repairs on cars out of courtesy, when the warranty was over.
Don't even start on the amount of money most dealership give to charity.
There are some bad dealers. Most are very good. The fact that you don't want them to make any kind of profit does not validate your feelings.
Like the man said, try buying your own dealership if you think they make so much.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by geofitz13

Wow, what misinformation and lack of understanding. I can go to almost any auto parts store to buy headlights. Some times, when dealing with a brand new model, you are forced to the dealership because spares are not readily available.
The chips are generic, made by only two or three companies in the world. What makes them different is the programming, which is unique to each model.
Oh yeah, what is Korvetts?? Really, I do know. But they went the way you want car dealerships to go.
So when you need service, you are going to be on your own.
I cannot even guess how many times in 35 years I saw dealerships do repairs on cars out of courtesy, when the warranty was over.
Don't even start on the amount of money most dealership give to charity.
There are some bad dealers. Most are very good. The fact that you don't want them to make any kind of profit does not validate your feelings.
Like the man said, try buying your own dealership if you think they make so much.

Dealerships or any business will either make money or go away.

It is how they make their money that makes most of us not trust them as far as one can throw them.

[LateBoomer]

Never said a dealership shouldn't make a profit. I'm sure the dealer in Tampa that I bought from made a profit.

however, a $17K markup at Jenkins on a car that the parent company says should have cost $64,500? Seems a bit excessive. Insulting. price-gouging.

I think that was my point. Nobody forces anyone to buy, but beware the business practices at Jenkins.