[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

My father was a union organizer in the 1930’S all over the USA, he fought pitched battles with company goons breaking up picket lines. Many of these organizers like many dad went on to fight in Spain against Franco and German troops, when war broke out my father didn’t even have to join but he did and fought with the 101ST Airborne and went he jumped on D Day he was older then commanding general . After the war he had a job with a national union , but during the McCarthy hearings he was branded a communist for his 1930’S union work and for fighting in Spain he was not. He was never bitter he still had his iron worker card , but angry at all the innocent people who lost there careers over these hearings. So in my family we take Labor Day seriously and freedom of speech no matter what the message is

I agree. To me, Labor Day is NOT a patriotic holiday, but a union holiday honoring the hundreds of millions of people who worked hard to make America strong and free and a land of opportunity for everyone, and who still do. Most worked with their hands, sweating, wearing out their bodies to provide for their families, often poor, and often dying relatively young yet unable to do more. They worked for enough to eat and a place to live and a chance that things would be easier for their descendants.

The day also honors those millions who formed labor unions that would stand up to the fat cats like Andrew Carnegie who became wildly wealthy partly by paying their workers just enough to keep them working. Those workers said, “We deserve to be paid enough for our work so that our children don’t starve, so that we don’t live in squalor, so that our kids can go to school.” Even though there were problems with some unions—corruption, Communist influence, mob influence, asking for more at the expense of bankrupting companies—still, unions, by helping workers negotiate as a group instead of one by one, made it possible for those who labor with their hands to eventually own a home, drive a car, take a vacation, and, for a few, retire in Florida.

Whether or not you worked with your hands or not (I didn’t), whether or not you were a union member or not (I was, for 34 years), almost certainly you live here because you labored and your ancestors labored, and because you benefited from a good salary and decent work conditions you might not have had without labor unions paving the way. Unless you were born wealthy or spent your working life managing a big company you founded, Labor Day is YOUR day. Even if you DID found your own little company or store or restaurant, chances are you couldn’t have done that without your own hard work and that of those who came before you.

Labor Day reminds us of that great promise and vow of the Pledge of Allegiance, so often chanted without thinking, and so often covered up by those who seek to divide us and conquer us, “Indivisable! With Liberty and Justice FOR ALL!”

[coconutmama]

Originally Posted by Choro&Swing

I agree. To me, Labor Day is NOT a patriotic holiday, but a union holiday honoring the hundreds of millions of people who worked hard to make America strong and free and a land of opportunity for everyone, and who still do. Most worked with their hands, sweating, wearing out their bodies to provide for their families, often poor, and often dying relatively young yet unable to do more. They worked for enough to eat and a place to live and a chance that things would be easier for their descendants.

The day also honors those millions who formed labor unions that would stand up to the fat cats like Andrew Carnegie who became wildly wealthy partly by paying their workers just enough to keep them working. Those workers said, “We deserve to be paid enough for our work so that our children don’t starve, so that we don’t live in squalor, so that our kids can go to school.” Even though there were problems with some unions—corruption, Communist influence, mob influence, asking for more at the expense of bankrupting companies—still, unions, by helping workers negotiate as a group instead of one by one, made it possible for those who labor with their hands to eventually own a home, drive a car, take a vacation, and, for a few, retire in Florida.

Whether or not you worked with your hands or not (I didn’t), whether or not you were a union member or not (I was, for 34 years), almost certainly you live here because you labored and your ancestors labored, and because you benefited from a good salary and decent work conditions you might not have had without labor unions paving the way. Unless you were born wealthy or spent your working life managing a big company you founded, Labor Day is YOUR day. Even if you DID found your own little company or store or restaurant, chances are you couldn’t have done that without your own hard work and that of those who came before you.

Labor Day reminds us of that great promise and vow of the Pledge of Allegiance, so often chanted without thinking, and so often covered up by those who seek to divide us and conquer us, “Indivisable! With Liberty and Justice FOR ALL!”

Well said. We feel badly that the laborers in Florida do not have Labor Day to spend with their families, such as the trash collectors & roofers. They work hard in heat & rain. So we do put out flags for them. It is sad that it is all about the money & not about families

[ruralgoddess]

I feel it's patriotic in that we live in a country in which, for example, unions are not banned, people can fight for a living minimum wage, and we can **peacefully** protest. It's patriotic to fly our flags in support of all those freedoms. So I have my flags out.

[mydavid]

Originally Posted by alwann

It's always nice to see flags and buntings on display. On this day, some do it and many don't. Do you consider Labor Day to be a patriotic holiday? I never did. It's a day off from work with big discounts at the stores, but I wonder whether people in general know the significance.

Today is the day we honor the working men and women who have made this country great.

[robinsdw2]

This is an official flag day.

[Red White & Blue]

I only put my flags out during Military service days, Flag day and 4th of July...

[robinsdw2]

You need to check out our official flag days.

Education is a powerful thing.

[DeanFL]

Originally Posted by davem4616

For me Labor Day was always a nice long weekend to celebrate a season ending cookout with friends and family and accept that 'summer' was over...I never saw it as a patriotic holiday

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me neither - Labor Day, Not Patriotic.

However I do celebrate and salute all the mothers giving birth today.
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[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by coconutmama

Well said. We feel badly that the laborers in Florida do not have Labor Day to spend with their families, such as the trash collectors & roofers. They work hard in heat & rain. So we do put out flags for them. It is sad that it is all about the money & not about families

It is a holiday and day off for Marion County Florida Express refuse workers.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Red White & Blue

I only put my flags out during Military service days, Flag day and 4th of July...

The following article lists a dozen Patriotic Holidays, some of which I did not know existed. Labor Day is not one of the dozen holidays listed in this article............

A Guide to Patriotic Holidays in the United States – Team Colors By Carrie

[ismatta]

Originally Posted by alwann

It's always nice to see flags and buntings on display. On this day, some do it and many don't. Do you consider Labor Day to be a patriotic holiday? I never did. It's a day off from work with big discounts at the stores, but I wonder whether people in general know the significance.

More than anything else, it is a time of acknowledgement of what truly Made America Great.....Labor Unions. The workers made America, both union and non-union, but the unions did a great deal to halt much of the wrongs done by the top 1% who used most American’s to increase their wealth at the expense of the true Americans who built this country. Look what that 1% has done lately. Today is a celebration of the hard work and character of the workers who made America great. Let’s all hope they get a chance to do it again in a couple of months.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I put my flags out to honor labor organizations and the men and woman in them and for the woman and people of color who are in the forefront of many Unions struggling to help low paid workers receive better wages and benefits My flags salute only labor on this day

[Rr23070]

In my family, every day is patriotic.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

My father was a union organizer in the 1930’S all over the USA, he fought pitched battles with company goons breaking up picket lines. Many of these organizers like many dad went on to fight in Spain against Franco and German troops, when war broke out my father didn’t even have to join but he did and fought with the 101ST Airborne and went he jumped on D Day he was older then commanding general . After the war he had a job with a national union , but during the McCarthy hearings he was branded a communist for his 1930’S union work and for fighting in Spain he was not. He was never bitter he still had his iron worker card , but angry at all the innocent people who lost there careers over these hearings. So in my family we take Labor Day seriously and freedom of speech no matter what the message is

That is one Great, Impressive story! He and ALL his descendants EARNED their American patriotic respect on Labor day. Super Kudos! As to the McCarthy Hearings - at least History restored your father's honor. And at the time of the Hearings, the old saying would have been true - that "no good deed goes unpunished". Those Hearings have gone down as a VERY low point in the American experience and experiment. I wonder how FUTURE History will feel about our times today????

[justjim]

Labor Day may not be an official “patriot day” but it should be IMHO. Thousands of Laborers lost their lives over the years making our country what it is today. Today I have my flags out and salute our essential workers in the hospitals, retail stores, those driving the big rigs, and many others who “labor”so we can have our needs met during this Pandemic. More respect should be shown for the working people of the past and especially those today who are helping us through this crisis.