[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by alwann

My mom was a union official. I worked in management. As you might imagine, we had lively discussions, especially during strikes, when managers were assigned to do members' jobs. (And many had no clue how do do them.)

That is a good point about, " no clue how to do them". I always thought that ANY Company would be smart to have the potential management types, actually do the line / labor type jobs for at least a week. Do ALL the different types of labor jobs for 1 week ( or at least, look over the shoulder of those doing certain jobs). The management types ARE intelligent, but maybe (?) not so wonderful with their hands? The management types would learn many skills and have a general idea about how the whole operation worked after this apprenticeship. AND the management types might (?) be able to suggest to middle management better / more efficient ways to do things that they either picked up on their own or got suggestions from the line workers. The idea of a suggestion box always seemed a WEAK solution, a small pandering to the concept of encouraging new ideas.

Newer corporate methods of groups making decisions and group projects seemed, to me, to be a good solution to encouraging idea generation. I personally never saw any group activity toward ideas and decisions. I was locked into "the old school' top-down management methods. That was an inflexible system that was frustrating and practically dehumanizing.

[Byte1]

Nope, I did not display my flags. I only do it for patriotic themed holidays. I don't do it for religious holidays, mother's day, father's day, Halloween, Cinco De Mayo, etc.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Labor day is currently a sham. The whole point of it was to honor workers with a day off. So what do most retail businesses do? Do they close? No. They hold HUGE sales, which require their employees to come in on a day that's supposed to be honoring them, and make them work even harder than usual to accommodate the crowds coming in for those massive sales.

Just like Black Friday, I avoid shopping on these days, and I avoid working on these days. I don't get a paid day off, but screw it. I'm not going to work harder than usual on a day that's supposed to be honoring my work.

Why to put your foot DOWN orange person! The world needs MORE like you. Kudos!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

Ask any Villager working Rec Centers or Community Watch it’s only a holiday in name. Organized Labor either gets a paid day off or Holiday Premium. But to our working Villagers it’s just another day!

That's what you get with the rationalizing, confusing laws and the term, "right to work". It is a right to be economically molested and to be powerless and manipulated. It leaves disorganized labor!

[big guy]

Originally Posted by alwann

It's always nice to see flags and buntings on display. On this day, some do it and many don't. Do you consider Labor Day to be a patriotic holiday? I never did. It's a day off from work with big discounts at the stores, but I wonder whether people in general know the significance.

I know the significance and it is to remember the working man. It is not a patriotic holiday. Doesn't hurt to fly the flag.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That's what you get with the rationalizing, confusing laws and the term, "right to work". It is a right to be economically molested and to be powerless and manipulated. It leaves disorganized labor!

A right to work state makes it easier to get rid of slacker workers that are unproductive and replace them with folks willing to work. Unions are smaller now because they are no longer needed. We have federal laws protecting employees. Yes, I agree that there was a need for unions at one time. Not now.

[Red White & Blue]

Originally Posted by robinsdw2

You need to check out our official flag days.

Education is a powerful thing.

Their are 20 Flag flying Holidays and 9 other recommended days.
Here are some, with your education you should explain to us why I should fly my Flag on these days?
3rd Monday in January
4th Thursday in November
2nd Sunday in May
3rd Sunday in June
1st Tuesday after the 1st Monday in November

[Incoblack1]

Originally Posted by justjim

Labor Day may not be an official “patriot day” but it should be IMHO. Thousands of Laborers lost their lives over the years making our country what it is today. Today I have my flags out and salute our essential workers in the hospitals, retail stores, those driving the big rigs, and many others who “labor”so we can have our needs met during this Pandemic. More respect should be shown for the working people of the past and especially those today who are helping us through this crisis.

Labor Day is a celebration of the middle class - especially those involved with manual activity. Where would we be without those folks? Just as we celebrate those who serve the military with Veterans Day, we should also celebrate those who do the hard work with Labor Day. Of course it is a patriotic occasion. Ask any middle class worker!

[Larjuice]

“Labor Day, the first Monday in September, is a creation of the labor movement and is dedicated to the social and economic achievements of American workers. It constitutes a yearly national tribute to the contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of our country.”