[blueash]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

If face shields are sssooo useless, then why do many professions wear them inside when working on or close to covid patients that are near-death in ICUs???????

They wear them not to prevent airborne disease but to protect the wearer from being splattered by blood and other potentially infectious materials that are spewed about in an ICU.

Remember the masks are to prevent you spreading your illness to others. Plastic shields are to protect the wearer against large material, not viruses.

This is a bit of an over simplification.. but essentially correct.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by blueash

Perfect. I do love how sarcasm is so often missed. You even got a "like" from one of our anti-vaxxers as your comment fit his preconceived notions. I am fairly certain that all those who died from the Black Death AKA Bubonic Plague also were vaccinated.

Sure, I am an "anti-vaxxer" that has driven a couple hours in Feb and March to get fully vaccinated.
FYI, I gave the "like" button because I thought the post was an attempt to be facetious, not because of any "preconceived notions." Some of us just enjoy the conversation, and do not pretend to know it all.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Sure, I am an "anti-vaxxer" that has driven a couple hours in Feb and March to get fully vaccinated.
FYI, I gave the "like" button because I thought the post was an attempt to be facetious, not because of any "preconceived notions." Some of us just enjoy the conversation, and do not pretend to know it all.

There are two kinds of anti-vaxxers. Those who refuse to take the shots themselves, and those that do not believe that vaccines are a necessary public health measure to protect others. You have clearly stated, if I recall your posts, that you are opposed to any vaccine mandates or passports or similar actions. Perhaps I have you confused with another poster. If so, I apologize, and I'll accept your assertion that you got the sarcasm of the original posting about the Spanish flu.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by blueash

Perfect. I do love how sarcasm is so often missed. You even got a "like" from one of our anti-vaxxers as your comment fit his preconceived notions. I am fairly certain that all those who died from the Black Death AKA Bubonic Plague also were vaccinated.

Judging by this posters previous vaccine related posts, sarcasm/humor was not intended.
The poster is anti-vaccine.

[Koapaka]

Seriously, I am starting to think some of you folks wake up with a "Well, this is it for me" attitude to start your day. Live life, LOVE freely, laugh much...enjoy....enjoy, enjoy!!!! When it comes your time to depart this earth, slide into wherever your idea of heaven is yelling Yeeeeee-Hawwww! What a ride!

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Utter bovine excrement. There was no vaccine.

During the Spanish Flu, researchers and health workers in the United States and Europe were confidently devising vaccines and immunizing hundreds of thousands of people in what amounted to a medical experiment on the grandest scale. What were the vaccines they came up with? Did they do anything to protect the immunized and halt the spread of the disease?

Read the "History of Vaccines" There were vaccines for the Spanish Flu. Experimental (hmm) as they were.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Yucatan2

Replying to Bonnevie: This is a very interesting link I had not seen before, thank you for posting it. You can drill down to the stats on each county, as well as each hospital. It appears The Villages hospital almost always has high occupancy in ICU, whether there are a lot of Covid admissions or not.

I would think communities over 55 would have higher hospitalization rates even if covid never existed.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by GeriS

Those who got the vax during the Spanish Flu were the ones who perished, not the unjabbed. Data is out there.

Interesting, since there was no vaccine for Spanish Flu in 1918-1919. Being a current anti-vaxxer is one thing, being a revisionist history anti-vaxxer is quite another

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

Seriously, I am starting to think some of you folks wake up with a "Well, this is it for me" attitude to start your day. Live life, LOVE freely, laugh much...enjoy....enjoy, enjoy!!!! When it comes your time to depart this earth, slide into wherever your idea of heaven is yelling Yeeeeee-Hawwww! What a ride!

Hopefully the ride is just beginning; Yeeee Hawwww

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by blueash

Perfect. I do love how sarcasm is so often missed. You even got a "like" from one of our anti-vaxxers as your comment fit his preconceived notions. I am fairly certain that all those who died from the Black Death AKA Bubonic Plague also were vaccinated.

I always suggest doing some research before posting a smarmy reply.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by hulagirl151@aol.com

The people with masks are masking to protect themselves from getting Covid 19. If
people are truly sick, they would (or should) stay home to protect the rest of the population from getting Covid 19.

2nd part---correct, those who are sick with COVID should isolate

1st part---the usual paper masks do just about nothing to protect the wearer---that ship sailed about 1 1/2 years ago

[Koapaka]

Lets be honest, wearing other than an N-95
mask is just about as effective as putting on a knee high stocking while having sex and praying you wont get pregnant.....ANYONE WITH ANY MEDICAL TRAINING realizes that

[Koapaka]

[QUOTE=Koapaka;2040281]Lets be honest, wearing other than an N-95 and expecting protection against COVID is just about as effective as putting on a knee high stocking while having sex and praying you wont get pregnant.....ANYONE WITH ANY MEDICAL TRAINING realizes that[/QUOTE

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

During the Spanish Flu, researchers and health workers in the United States and Europe were confidently devising vaccines and immunizing hundreds of thousands of people in what amounted to a medical experiment on the grandest scale. What were the vaccines they came up with? Did they do anything to protect the immunized and halt the spread of the disease?

Read the "History of Vaccines" There were vaccines for the Spanish Flu. Experimental (hmm) as they were.

Ummmm, not quite:

In the deadly Spanish influenza pandemic of 1918-19, investigators attempted to develop vaccines to prevent influenza, though they had not yet correctly identified the causative pathogen. A variety of killed whole cell bacterial vaccines were tested; these vaccines included Bacillus influenzae (now know as Haemophilus influenzae) and strains of pneumococcus, streptococcus, staphylococcus, and Moraxella catarrhalis bacteria. These vaccines would certainly not have prevented influenza infection--as we know now, the pandemic was caused by a new strain of the influenza A virus. Influenza viruses would not be isolated and identified until the 1930s, and the first commercial influenza vaccines were not licensed in the United States until the 1940s.

[Wyseguy]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

Lets be honest, wearing other than an N-95
mask is just about as effective as putting on a knee high stocking while having sex and praying you wont get pregnant.....ANYONE WITH ANY MEDICAL TRAINING realizes that

Well, sure, the idea of socks preventing pregnancy is funny; everyone knows standing up while engaged in sex prevents pregnancy.