[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by stu from nyc

awhile ago someone posted a picture of two old ladies in a golf cart holding a clipboard. That convinced me they are real and should get a life.

Cause photos never lie

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I know a number of posters believe that the two old biddies with their clipboard are an urban myth, but I would think that 80 complaints on the same day is prima facie evidence that they may not be a myth.

Maybe the myth is 80 complaints in one day.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As it is, there are lots of young and undesirable-looking people living in the Historic section. Also, various drivers speeding. I would think that it would be a lot easier to stop the speeders than the undesirable-looking young residents. And, a speeding vehicle can injure or kill an older resident out walking their dog much easier than a threatening look from an undesirable.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Yes, I agree. I have seen a lot of speeding in the last 2 or 3 years. And "speed kills"

And going the speed limit can kill and going 10 mph under the speed limit can kill. The skill of the driver is the ultimate deciding factor, not the absolute speed.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by asianthree

In our case the 80 plus complaints filed on the same day, only a handful were true compliance issues.

Apologies, from the few, at the next neighborhood potluck, and pics of the chosen 2 people who drove through the neighborhood filing the 80 complaints.

Wow, those "old biddies" as some refer to them, are not only prolific but they appear to have a hell of a lot of stamina.


Let's review - that's 80 alleged violations in ONE neighborhood. If they drove around all day, say 8 hours, no bathroom breaks, cart gas, lunch, etc., they wrote 10 every hour. That's one every SIX MINUTES, all day long. Really? Does anyone REALLY believe this?

If you do, be aware there's a fat guy in a red suit coming in 6 days. He's coming in. Unless you've been naughty.

Be on the lookout.

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Most of the United States is protected by local or state Zoning Regulations. Why? In order to orderly develop land, housing and businesses and protect land owners from near by, non-compatible uses.

Same as Deed Restrictions. If Developers didn't see value in them, they wouldn't adopt them. If Buyers didn't see the benefits, they wouldn't buy.

The reason Condominiums are so popular, is the same reason "managed neighborhoods" are so ubiquitous. People want to know what they're buying and know it will remain essentially the same.

Courts in the US, almost unfailingly enforce Zoning and Deed Compliance.

I'll agree to disagree, I've already dealt with all of it, tons of experience with court and more. But you can go ahead and believe all that, because you just justified my position that deed restrictions are truly a sales device not a value protection device.

appreciate that.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

Wow, those "old biddies" as some refer to them, are not only prolific but they appear to have a hell of a lot of stamina.


Let's review - that's 80 alleged violations in ONE neighborhood. If they drove around all day, say 8 hours, no bathroom breaks, cart gas, lunch, etc., they wrote 10 every hour. That's one every SIX MINUTES, all day long. Really? Does anyone REALLY believe this?

If you do, be aware there's a fat guy in a red suit coming in 6 days. He's coming in. Unless you've been naughty.

Be on the lookout.

Or they drove around for 2 weeks, 10 a day, then took another week to do the paperwork - so it was 80 in one day, but it took a month for the whole process.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

Wow, those "old biddies" as some refer to them, are not only prolific but they appear to have a hell of a lot of stamina.


Let's review - that's 80 alleged violations in ONE neighborhood. If they drove around all day, say 8 hours, no bathroom breaks, cart gas, lunch, etc., they wrote 10 every hour. That's one every SIX MINUTES, all day long. Really? Does anyone REALLY believe this?

If you do, be aware there's a fat guy in a red suit coming in 6 days. He's coming in. Unless you've been naughty.

Be on the lookout.

doubt it would take very long. One drives by the homes slowly, the other just write:
101--gnome
103--brass bird
105-- white cross
107--Trump sign

As long as there are obvious violations----and there are----could probably do 80 in an hour

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Or they drove around for 2 weeks, 10 a day, then took another week to do the paperwork - so it was 80 in one day, but it took a month for the whole process.

So with all the neighborhood witnesses who allegedly saw them driving around and took pictures of them over your example of one month, maybe they cleaned up their violations during the 30 days. I'm good with that, too, if it means they came into compliance. I DID buy a home here because I like deed restrictions on crappy stuff around houses. If you want to load up with a yard full of junk, there are plenty of non-deed restricted houses outside The Villages. Face it, violators are WAY IN THE MINORITY here since about 99% of residents DO follow the guidelines. They may not agree with everything but they honor their promises to the other homeowners. For that, I'm thankful.

If your yard junk means that much to you, stick it in the backyard. You'll be able to see it.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by DAVES

My suggestion to all. You cannot control all others. Most people are reasonable. The ones we see are the on reasonable ones the what I call astronomers. The ones who think the world revolves around them. Ask not what they can, should do ask what you can do to avoid the problem. Suggestion to dog walkers. What I see. Wear bright clothes. Do not stop in the middle of the street to chat. Do not allow YOUR DOG to be out of control-you cannot control the dog on the end of a too long leash. I have a group, a mob, that stand on the corner with their dogs. Dirty looks-I DO NOT CARE. I am not going to be on the wrong side of the street so as to not disturb them. UNDESIRABLE?

Undesirable.

Isn't that a term from 1930s Germany?

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Byte1

And believe me when I say that some of them have some pretty cluttered properties. But, my preference doesn't matter to them and theirs does not matter to me.

But did you sign and agree to deed restrictions? Did your neighbors?

That's the real issue. MOST homeowners like the rules as evidenced by the fact there are not a lot of violations.

Cluttered properties do matter to me and certainly a huge majority of others.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Awhile ago someone posted a picture of two old ladies in a golf cart holding a clipboard. That convinced me they are real and should get a life.

they ARE real, you guys! i posted once in a previous thread how i had mistaken them for meter readers on my neighbors' property. since i am a warm & loving person, i said good morning to the woman with the clipboard & she spun around like i'd caught her in the act of something. she climbed into the cart & they drove off! what upset me the most is she had no business on our properties roaming between our homes. i let it go, but always keep an eye out for them & their suspicious behavior

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DAVES

This is an endless debate. REALITY, people think they are right. People complain about others but do not see what they do.

A first question is does it really matter? Endless common complaints, dogs, golf cart speeds, noisy neighbors, people blocking traffic. PEOPLE ENDLESSLY FINDING STUFF TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

It is generally talked about that. "The 1st step in SOLVING a problem is to IDENTIFY the problem".

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Your statements often leave me shaking my head. Talk about elitism…

I am NOT really an elitist, but as I was writing that post, I thought to myself that it sounded pretty cold. But, I did NOT change it because it showed some harsh realities about the situation. Most TV Landers have worked long and hard to enjoy The Villages as fruits of their labor. I remember that about 5 years ago a softball player had their Corvette stolen in a parking lot near the Junior High School. In that case, he was NOT getting his or her just rewards in retirement. Certainly, nothing is perfect, but, in general, the retirees living in TV land deserve high-tech Law Enforcement and plenty of it. I have suggested high-tech cameras in neighborhoods and camera-carrying military-grade drones. Police or community service people on E-bikes because those riders are FORCED to be aware of their environment more than in a 4-wheel motor vehicle.

I don't have a problem with volunteers wanting to keep or improve their neighborhoods, but it might be too INSIGNIFICANT to concentrate on LITTLE things like white crosses too close to the road, or wrong shrubs, or painting a house with an unapproved paint color. Now, I would rather volunteers in a neighborhood report things like a motorhome parked too long or some more serious infraction. If I had my way I would like to have volunteers with speed guns and cameras set up in a way that would allow a legal speeding ticket to be issued. of course, there may be some legal problems. I guess that my main point is to better utilize the idea of "TROLLS" by upgrading their attention to BIGGER problems.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

That requires funding.....hmmm.....oh wait...

I drone operator watching 8 cameras could be doing better work than say 8 Community Service vehicle drivers. And That would eliminate 7 jobs - and manpower is the most expensive factor in ANY BUSINESS. And 8 drones would cost less than 7 motor vehicles and use less fuel and hopefully be safer with fewer accidents. I see a win.....win...... to be possible here!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I don't have a problem with volunteers wanting to keep or improve their neighborhoods, but it might be too INSIGNIFICANT to concentrate on LITTLE things like white crosses too close to the road, or wrong shrubs, or painting a house with an unapproved paint color. Now, I would rather volunteers in a neighborhood report things like a motorhome parked too long or some more serious infraction. If I had my way I would like to have volunteers with speed guns and cameras set up in a way that would allow a legal speeding ticket to be issued. of course, there may be some legal problems. I guess that my main point is to better utilize the idea of "TROLLS" by upgrading their attention to BIGGER problems.

Arent we luck you do not have any control.