[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer

I am a Civil Engineer. I supervised the building of bridges for 35 years. A bridge failure like this is 100% a engineering mistake.

So, you weren't around in 1940 ?

[graciegirl]

Bridge at Lake Sumter Landing

[graciegirl]

There are those who will have conspiracy theories no matter what. There are those like me that think the developers have done a really good job planning and building this place.

Here is something I found. A Million and a quarter seems like a reasonable amount to fix this bridge.

http://www.dot.state.fl.us/planning/...ts/Bridges.pdf

[Jim 9922]

From what I read, it seems that the bridge structures, the roadway and underlying supports are all good. If not, the County would fix it because it is their road. The problem is just the erosion of the pile of sand, dirt and small rocks that the developer dumped into the middle of a mined peat bog to create the "park". Apparently the powers to be didn't have the common sense to realize that the constant wave action from the trending wind direction washes away such unprotected fill. There are no sink holes creating the erosion problem. Anyway, a really good sinkhole would probably drain most of the lake and such a sinkhole would be very evident.
What is really sad is that we, the residents, probably have already "paid" once for the island as part of some bonded infrastructure cost when that section of The Villages was developed!!

[TVMayor]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Compared to the cost for Elon Musk to send men to Mars, $1.4 million is not that much. It seems reasonable to me.

Mars, good one. It was said on the news that within 100 year after the first manned launch to Mars, a million people will live on Mars. If a real estate person wants to show you a house on Mars you should know the summertime temperature is 70F and the winter temperature is -195F below zero. The oxygen content of the Martian atmosphere is only 0.13 percent, compared with 21 percent in Earth's atmosphere. Carbon dioxide makes up 95.3 percent of the gas in the atmosphere of Mars. Take plenty of bottled water and oxygen on your trip.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

There are those who will have conspiracy theories no matter what. There are those like me that think the developers have done a really good job planning and building this place.

Here is something I found. A Million and a quarter seems like a reasonable amount to fix this bridge.

http://www.dot.state.fl.us/planning/...ts/Bridges.pdf

That link is for budgeting purposes to build a NEW bridge...from scratch.

What is being proposed, has absolutely nothing to do with the bridge structure itself (especially building a new one )...it is purely erosion of the edges of the island itself.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

So, you weren't around in 1940 ?

Actually, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster...was the engineers fault.


Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse - Failure magazine

While it’s unclear whether the Narrows’ principal engineer, Leon Moisseiff, was aware of the problems plaguing these other new bridges (he almost certainly was), he argued for cost-cutting adjustments to the original design and against initiatives that would detract from the bridge’s appearance.

Meanwhile, an advisory engineer named Theodore Condron strongly and repeatedly urged that the Tacoma Narrows be built at least 25% wider. Condron, a lone dissenter, was ignored, though his fears quickly proved justified as the bridge began behaving abnormally even during the construction process.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

So, you weren't around in 1940 ?

Not sure of your point. The Tacoma Narrows bridge failure definitely WAS due to faulty engineering design.

[RickeyD]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Not sure of your point. The Tacoma Narrows bridge failure definitely WAS due to faulty engineering design.

Warren wasn't there to supervise it's construction, hence it fell.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Warren wasn't there to supervise it's construction, hence it fell.

In that context...good point.

[Jakel]

Make it a toll bridge until it's paid for.

[Cathy H]

Originally Posted by ureout

this bridge/road was built was over a marshy/bog area, who was the engineering firm that hired to do core samples of the soil? I would think they would hold some responsibility

you must know by now the "family" hired the cheapest help and did no underground investigation

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Here is a bridge thread. Shoreline Eroding On Land Under Bridge

Has anyone living here been assessed anything? We are past nine years and we haven't ever been assessed anything.

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I don't know how you can say that when the strata here can have a sinkhole at any time. Shale. Shale. Shale.

A million dollars is not excessive when you think that is the cost of two or three homes. I imagine that the money was budgeted for repairs of this nature and just like everything else we will never have to have any change in our amenity fees or other fees.

Uhhhhhh . . . It appears that you are missing the point. No one is saying anything about a special assessment -- in the past, now or in the future. A special assessment has nothing to do with this.

What bothers people is not the cost, but the way things are done. That only people paying are from certain districts when it is a public street that can be used by anyone in the world. That some "real" facts are swept under the rug, or the bridge in this case. What are they? Who knows??!? That the people who should be responsible for paying for any necessary repair should be the county and Morse (a public street built on private land).

Now do you get it?

Originally Posted by graciegirl

There are those who will have conspiracy theories no matter what. There are those like me that think the developers have done a really good job planning and building this place.

Here is something I found. A Million and a quarter seems like a reasonable amount to fix this bridge.

http://www.dot.state.fl.us/planning/...ts/Bridges.pdf

Then let Morse and the county fight over who should be paying for the repair between the two of them, and not put the unfair burden of the cost on residents!