[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

1. That isn't legal on any public road anywhere in the country.
2. It's under production, which means it's not yet available.
3. You can't possibly have one, because of #2
4. If you get one, and you're seen using it on a public road, you'll have to accept the consequences of violating #1.

what makes yours legal and mine not?

[kendi]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Yikes golf cart drivers are stupid! We were walking on the left for on coming cart traffic on the path between Everglades and the Water Lilly bridge, and an Atomic cart was passing another cart with a 1 mph differential maybe, from behind and no beep, and nearly took out my arm. Heard a cart but never expected two abreast from behind.

“Can’t slow down for a walker in case of a stumble, ‘cause i would lose all that time/distance of trying to pass that slower cart!”

Welcome to Snowbird Season!

“Golf cart drivers are stupid!” That exaggeration makes the rest of your comment seem to be an exaggeration as well.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces

My cart will do 50
I never do it, but it's capable.

Your post of 11/24 you posted speed 25mph with

Your post of 12/24 you complained Quietechs slow on acceleration “I get frustrated driving one as I am used to the cart getting out of its own way”

So your quietech is currently geared to speeds of 50? Or did you dump the Q, and buy a smart car to use on mmp?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Your post of 11/24 you posted speed 25mph with

Your post of 12/24 you complained Quietechs slow on acceleration “I get frustrated driving one as I am used to the cart getting out of its own way”

So your quietech is currently geared to speeds of 50? Or did you dump the Q, and buy a smart car to use on mmp?

Nice research
I have four carts all American made
the 50mph cart is just a funnin around cart I drive occasionally

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

?? Try harder.

My response that you took exception to was made to the 2nd post I quoted. Yes, it was much farther down in the thread and was apparently written without having read the original post first.

I couldn’t care less about stepping into the grass, that was completely irrelevant (you might note that I avoided highlighting that section). The post I responded to (the response you took exception to) assumed that the OP needs to be told to walk facing oncoming traffic. Great advice but the original post clearly stated the OP *was* walking facing oncoming traffic. The poster would have known that if he had read the original post.

Does that make it easier for you to understand?

Well, it was good advice “just step off in grass” but in the op case they was on bridge or close to entry where that wasn’t option. The cart should NOT be passing on bridge or on approach to bridge where it’s narrowed or dangerous due to limited visibility.

IMO that was point of OP post and the added “just step off path” was unrelated good advice cause majority of walkers walk HOGGING path or diamond lanes putting themselves in potential danger from sun glare, a pillar blind spot and dozen other issues. The rule states walk facing traffic on edge of street/road. MMP is a road diamond lanes are roads. But I this case the op was doing everything right and golf cart driver was WRONG.

[Bill14564]

[QUOTE=Topspinmo;2399192]Well, it was good advice “just step off in grass” but in the op case they was on bridge or close to entry where that wasn’t option. The cart should NOT be passing on bridge or on approach to bridge where it’s narrowed or dangerous due to limited visibility.

.../QUOTE]

The OP stated they were between Everglades and the Water Lilly bridge. That is two miles of path; it does have a bridge but the OP never stated they were anywhere near that bridge.

The OP could not "just step off in the grass" because the OP never saw the cart coming because the OP was walking facing traffic while the cart was approaching him from behind. The OP never expected a cart approaching from behind him to enter the lane adjacent to him and get that close to him.

Had the cart been in its own lane and approaching the OP from the other direction then he would have seen it and perhaps he would have "just stepped off into the grass." He never had that chance, he never saw the cart, it approached from behind him.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I violate the laws of driving too. I tend to drive too fast. I'm not a hypocrite. So I get your point totally. The tunnels merging with the main MMPs can be a nightmare even with stop signs. The one that goes to Mallory off Morse at Odell is terrifying. I think it should be a 3-way stop sign instead of just one stop sign coming out of the tunnel.

But if I was on a bicycle and saw no one to my left, I'd still likely take a right without stopping out of the tunnel because - that next leg is all uphill and it's either ride through, or get off and walk it up the hill. I'm sure there isn't a single golf cart driver who would happily tolerate THAT if they were stuck behind me.

Do you mean the tunnel under Morse that is right by the Virginia starter shack and intersects the MMP just north of Odell and west of the clubhouse? If so, I drive that frequently and don't see any issues with it at all.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I'd love to see a radar gun reading of a cart going 40. I've lived here and driven a golf cart for 11 years and maybe twice, MAYBE, I encountered one that appeared to be going about 30 based on speed differential. I can't imagine 40, ever. Yet it is one of your favorite repeat posts. Any proof, WHATSOEVER, of a cart going 40?

The street where I live is "SPEEDERS HEAVEN". The street sign says 20 MPH, but about 50% of cars and trucks exceed that. And about 40% of the Golf Carts (the drivers must have delusions of race car grandeur) go by at speeds over 30 MPH.
........Note: Since I am often in my front yard I can hear WHICH GOLF CARTS are speeding by how loudly their engines are straining. Also , I notice older Golf Carts leave the SMELL of unburned gasoline behind them - especially the ones going over 20 MPH. Also I " pity the fool" that buys a USED golf cart that had its speed jacked up because the engine will likely be ruined.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Chucker

Why play chicken with a golf cart. Walk on the oncoming side to see the carts coming, take one step to the left onto the grass. After the cart passes by step back on the path. Simple as that.

You need a mirror on your glasses to see a golf cart passing another golf cart so that you have time to step onto the grass when you are walking facing traffic.

[Number 10 GI]

When did you get your eyes and ears calibrated to judge speed? Where did you get this certification?

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I don't see much evidence of regret in cyclists when they blow through stop and yield signs or go around an entrance gate at full speed, or is regret an emotion that should only apply to cart drivers?

You forget: bicyclists are...special...

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Yikes golf cart drivers are stupid! We were walking on the left...

I think I need to stay indoors to stay alive!

I was out running this morning along a residential street, on the left, facing oncoming traffic, when a lady in a golf cart maintained her speed and position along the edge of the road, forcing me to jump into a neighbor's garden.

I guess she had forgotten she had a steering wheel.

A cyclist going the other way made some amusing comment about the driver, so maybe she has seen it all before, too.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

I think I need to stay indoors to stay alive!

I was out running this morning along a residential street, on the left, facing oncoming traffic, when a lady in a golf cart maintained her speed and position along the edge of the road, forcing me to jump into a neighbor's garden.

I guess she had forgotten she had a steering wheel.

A cyclist going the other way made some amusing comment about the driver, so maybe she has seen it all before, too.

Some will not get over no matter what’s ahead. Good example couple years ago company was taking tree out, had cones out and person stopping traffic due to pull rope across one lane. Somebody ignored all that and ran into rope flipping golf cart.

Then there sun flare angle of view that blocks out. Early morning and late evening when sun low especially bad. done good getting out of harms way. I don’t hesitate to get off MMP or diamond lane even if I have to climb tree, dive in bush, or climb fence. In the OP case unless he was walking side by side (which don’t seem to be case) he was blind sided from rear by some passing on narrow stretch of road.

[Topspinmo]

[QUOTE=Bill14564;2399194]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Well, it was good advice “just step off in grass” but in the op case they was on bridge or close to entry where that wasn’t option. The cart should NOT be passing on bridge or on approach to bridge where it’s narrowed or dangerous due to limited visibility.

.../QUOTE]

The OP stated they were between Everglades and the Water Lilly bridge. That is two miles of path; it does have a bridge but the OP never stated they were anywhere near that bridge.

The OP could not "just step off in the grass" because the OP never saw the cart coming because the OP was walking facing traffic while the cart was approaching him from behind. The OP never expected a cart approaching from behind him to enter the lane adjacent to him and get that close to him.

Had the cart been in its own lane and approaching the OP from the other direction then he would have seen it and perhaps he would have "just stepped off into the grass." He never had that chance, he never saw the cart, it approached from behind him.

Not familiar with that area I have no need to be down there. Wether it was on bridge, close to bridge, or far far away from bridge it narrow section. Which golf cart driver should have not been passing that was point of OP post, he was doing everything right, walking facing traffic, walking on left edge of road. Far cry from most out walking two or more abreast with traffic approaching hogging road, path, sidewalk ect… putting themselves in harms way, then whining about golf cart driver and bicycles.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

You forget: bicyclists are...special...

Speaking of, got passed this morning on MMP by electric bicyclists going at least 28 maybe more? How do I know this I was going 22 and he flew past me. Course he had his legs in slow motion like he was peddling. I’ll give him credit he did slow down before ran stop sign to maybe 15 cause of vision problem.