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Old 04-24-2023, 04:44 PM
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Maybe/maybe, the complaint is about hardscaping and not just flowers? I believe that most of the restrictions regarding easements is that one cannot build hardscaping for their flower gardens if such hardscape infringes on the utility easement. I know many/many homes where there are bushes and flowers planted in those easements. However, I have also heard of folks that had to remove their hardscaping that was on the easement.
Possible, but the original post also included:
The flowers were removed before the Rep. had finished talking to a neighbor across the street….who also had a violation.
Difficult to imagine hardscaping being removed that quickly.
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Possible, but the original post also included:
The flowers were removed before the Rep. had finished talking to a neighbor across the street….who also had a violation.
Difficult to imagine hardscaping being removed that quickly.
They were flowers not mature oak trees!
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They were flowers not mature oak trees!
Your point is?
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Old 04-24-2023, 06:25 PM
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Maybe/maybe, the complaint is about hardscaping and not just flowers? I believe that most of the restrictions regarding easements is that one cannot build hardscaping for their flower gardens if such hardscape infringes on the utility easement. I know many/many homes where there are bushes and flowers planted in those easements. However, I have also heard of folks that had to remove their hardscaping that was on the easement.
What Is Hardscape in Landscaping?
The term "hardscape" refers to all of the non-living elements in landscaping, such as a brick patio, a stone wall, or a wooden arbor. It is one of the two major subcategories of landscaping, the other being softscape. Softscape is all of the living and organic elements in a garden or on a lawn, such as trees, flowers, and grass.


No hardscape indicated in the complaint or existing in the bed.
Of the many, many that have bushes and flowers, are in violation being in the easement.
It’s spelled out many places on this site; VCDD Community Standards
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Flowers, pull with hand … gone. Or mow down, a tree is much more involved to get rid of. So I could see how they could get rid of the flowers lickety split.
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Flowers, pull with hand … gone. Or mow down, a tree is much more involved to get rid of. So I could see how they could get rid of the flowers lickety split.
Which is essentially what I was pointing out. There could not have been any hardscape as was suggested since the flowers were gone before the Rep left.
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Representative from Community Standards advised us today we had a landscape violation. Flowers planted within the 13’ street right-a-way. Regardless that flowers have been there since 2005
Ours was one of 25, so far, submitted by the same individual. All anonymous via email, (the real cowards way). From Lady Lake to Fenny.

The flowers were removed before the Rep. had finished talking to a neighbor across the street….who also had a violation.
I have to ask - I’ve read the architectural review manuals that are published on the district gov site but I didn’t see anything that mentioned the distance that flowers can be planted within the right of way. There were several references to 2-3 foot setbacks from property lines but that’s about it. I’m not suggesting that what you’re saying isn’t true - I’m just asking where anyone gets correct info. Are there other guidelines that residents are supposed to follow? Where can I find them?
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Representative from Community Standards advised us today we had a landscape violation. Flowers planted within the 13’ street right-a-way. Regardless that flowers have been there since 2005
Ours was one of 25, so far, submitted by the same individual. All anonymous via email, (the real cowards way). From Lady Lake to Fenny.

The flowers were removed before the Rep. had finished talking to a neighbor across the street….who also had a violation.
I have to ask - I’ve read the architectural review guidelines that are published on the district gov site but I didn’t see anything about flowers being planted within 13 feet of anything. There were a few references to 2-3 foot setbacks around property lines but that was about it. Are there more specific guidelines that are published somewhere? Where do residents go to find them ?
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I have to ask - I’ve read the architectural review guidelines that are published on the district gov site but I didn’t see anything about flowers being planted within 13 feet of anything. There were a few references to 2-3 foot setbacks around property lines but that was about it. Are there more specific guidelines that are published somewhere? Where do residents go to find them ?

The Homesite drawing (site plan) for a property shows utility easements along the streets.

This varies per property, in my case, it is 13.5 feet. Sumter County can provide copies off your property drawings via email if you don't have them.

https://sumtercountyfl.nextrequest.com/

In former homes, we were allowed landscaping in easements but if the utility needs to dig it up, they have no responsibility to replace.

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"Karen" ? "Ken" ? Just another manifestation of this whole, new, counter world. Ridiculous, vindictive, actually really ignorant when you stop and analyze it. Why not "Susans" or "johns", if it wasn't so prevalent, and demeaning, it would not even be worth discussion !
The term Karen can even be viewed as a bit racist. Middle aged white woman with a short haircut. Guess I should be offended (BTW a Karen's counterpart is a Kevin.
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The term Karen can even be viewed as a bit racist. Middle aged white woman with a short haircut. Guess I should be offended (BTW a Karen's counterpart is a Kevin.
Hmmm… probably intended differently but that definition makes me think of a woman old enough, and with a nice hair cut, well-off enough, who will not take anyone’s nonsense anymore. I noticed when I golf cart around with some lady friends here in TV they will NOT settle for disrespect or being slighted. Perhaps they may have taken it all their lives previously, but not any more. Yet they are the considerate, thoughtful and generous in nearly all situations.

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Hmmm… probably intended differently but that definition makes me think of a woman old enough, and with a nice hair cut, well-off enough, who will not take anyone’s nonsense anymore. I noticed when I golf cart around with some lady friends here in TV they will NOT settle for disrespect or being slighted. Perhaps they may have taken it all their lives previously, but not any more. Yet they are the considerate, thoughtful and generous in nearly all situations.
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Old 04-25-2023, 09:05 AM
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Hmmm… probably intended differently but that definition makes me think of a woman old enough, and with a nice hair cut, well-off enough, who will not take anyone’s nonsense anymore. I noticed when I golf cart around with some lady friends here in TV they will NOT settle for disrespect or being slighted. Perhaps they may have taken it all their lives previously, but not any more. Yet they are the considerate, thoughtful and generous in nearly all situations.
In recent years being "disrespected" has been used by people to justify physical violence, loud inappropriate behaviour, even shootings. I would propose that we not assign too much importance on a stranger's disrespect. When I was bumped then verbally chastised for holding the door for a woman, I assume anyone watching would feel the same pity and sadness I felt towards that person. The last thing I would suggest is to engage the individual for disrespecting me.
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In recent years being "disrespected" has been used by people to justify physical violence, loud inappropriate behaviour, even shootings. I would propose that we not assign too much importance on a stranger's disrespect. When I was bumped then verbally chastised for holding the door for a woman, I assume anyone watching would feel the same pity and sadness I felt towards that person. The last thing I would suggest is to engage the individual for disrespecting me.
Well the ladies seem to be able to (most of the time) tell the difference between an insane person and an entitled one… though not always. And in those little purses they do carry, but I have never seen them use… several served and like to practice at the range. Being a female, especially an older one… can be deceptive.

The ladies are usually not confrontational. Females tend to shun, and talk about a person, to others, social media etc amazing how quickly one’s reputation can get around.
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