[THE NEWCOMER]

[QUOTE=Indydealmaker;785861]I think that it might be less confusing for the newbies on the roundabouts to quit thinking in terms of right turn and left turns. Just learn which lane you are supposed to be in to go the direction you choose. Logically, all turns from the circle are "right" turns. The exits are one through four. Regardless of which direction you enter from, your first exit is YOUR number one, the two, etc. The signs posted at the approach to each roundabout are very clear.

Also, no lane changes should occur once you are in the roundabout. You are either inside our outside.

Never enter a roundabout beside another car. Stagger your entry so that you are not T-boned. Also the speed limit of 20 is absolutely necessary. It is not an arbitrary speed.[/QUOTE

According to Lt. Wolfe, (Sumter County Sheriff's Department) a person making a LEFT TURN should use the VISTORS GATE ONLY! No lane changes should occur once you are in the roundabout and that includes changing lanes to go into the RESIDENT GATE! STUDY THE DIAGRAM, a person making a left turn is going into the VISTORS GATE which is always on the left side entering the gate. There is no lane change shown going into the RESIDENTS GATE.

[Eve2278]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Also, look at the diagram posted by Indydealmaker. You can, in fact change lanes in a round-a-bout. That's why there are dashed lines in some areas.

I think that most of the problems occur when people are exiting the round-a-bouts from the left hand lane, which is perfectly legal and in fact the proper procedure in some cases. It might actually be better if the law was that you can only exit from the right hand lane and if you're in the left, you need to change lanes before you exit.

Sorry have to disagree. That is exactly what is happening now...and how is that working out for everyone.

Never change lanes in a roundabout.

The dotted or dashed lines apply to the cars exiting from the side subdivisions...

think about it, why would you be in the left lane wanting to go right,

why would you get in the right lane if you were going to go left.

Roundabouts keep traffic flowing by staying in the correct lane..

Dotted/dashed lines have nothing to do with cars already in the circle..

Having said that...we made the same assumption as you posted when we first came to TV...

however..Common Sense prevailed...when we understood the signage...
haven't had a problem since...

[Eve2278]

[quote=THE NEWCOMER;786224]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

I think that it might be less confusing for the newbies on the roundabouts to quit thinking in terms of right turn and left turns. Just learn which lane you are supposed to be in to go the direction you choose. Logically, all turns from the circle are "right" turns. The exits are one through four. Regardless of which direction you enter from, your first exit is YOUR number one, the two, etc. The signs posted at the approach to each roundabout are very clear.

Also, no lane changes should occur once you are in the roundabout. You are either inside our outside.

Never enter a roundabout beside another car. Stagger your entry so that you are not T-boned. Also the speed limit of 20 is absolutely necessary. It is not an arbitrary speed.[/QUOTE

According to Lt. Wolfe, (Sumter County Sheriff's Department) a person making a LEFT TURN should use the VISTORS GATE ONLY! No lane changes should occur once you are in the roundabout and that includes changing lanes to go into the RESIDENT GATE! STUDY THE DIAGRAM, a person making a left turn is going into the VISTORS GATE which is always on the left side entering the gate. There is no lane change shown going into the RESIDENTS GATE.

AGREE you are correct...and do think before you get to the roundabout in which direction your going..

[murray607]

Originally Posted by Biker Dog

Turn signals people....always use your turn signals...PLEASE!!!!!!

And remember to signal before you make your turn, not while you are making your turn as it is too late then.

It is amazing the number of people that only signal while they are actually making their turn and I have even seen those that turn on the signal light after they have completed their turn. I wonder why?

[Matzy]

If everybody would use the little stick at the left side of the steering wheel, the blinker, more often it would make all much easier.. not just in a round-about. As Europeans have to use it, if you want to go out, means leaving the round-about use the right blinker, if you are on the left lane stay you have to circle until no other car from back (right side) can hit you, give signal (again: blinker to the right) and get out. Actually, it is pretty easy.

[ajbrown]

This AM, our neighbor and good friend was approaching a roundabout on her bike. She saw a car slowing down like they were going to exit, but they did not. Next, they moved to the left lane, so she assumed they missed exit and were going around again. They did not, but instead banged a U-turn and went the wrong way in the roundabout back to the exit it missed ....

I try not to post on roundabout threads, but come on....you must admit this is a new one

Since I am already posting on the thread... why not share my opinion on roundabouts?
Much better for traffic flow and I feel much safer in them then a signal light....

[jblum315]

Probably not a new one, just new for you. I agree that roundabouts are safer and better traffic flow - we just have to be alert for drivers that don't follow the rules!

[pqrstar]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I think that problems occur when cars enter the round-a-bout at 6:00 go into the left lane, and intend to go straight through and exit at 12:00. A car enters the round-a-bot at 3:00 at approximately the same time stays in the right lane and intends to go straight through and exit at 9:00. The car in the right hand lane will be cutting across the bow of the car in the left hand lane. You have to watch out for this. Both drivers are following the rules, but there could be an issue if the car in the left hand lane isn't paying attention.

This little diagram is nice, but it doesn't address cars entering at close to the same time from different points. It only shows two cars entering from 6:00.

All cars entering a traffic circle are supposed to yield to BOTH LANES of traffic within the traffic circle.

[Bogie Shooter]

Even more about roundabouts.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Even more about roundabouts.

But it is more old stuff!

[sailor47]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

slow down let the right lane driver enter the roundabout first and leave that driver ahead of you. Then if they do something stupid you will not get whacked.

Bogie...That is the way to do it. I have always done that and saved my car more than once.

Otherwise you would be right but in some cases dead right. Not really dead but a messed up car for sure.

[Bogie Shooter]

Glad posters are posting to these old threads............not!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by billethkid

one just needs to remember that in TV there is a significant part of the population that DOES NOT:

>stop for stop signs
>does not obey the rules of the road in round-a-bouts
>does not do the speed limit
>does not repair ball marks on the greens
>does not (and will not) play ready golf

MAny blame it on the age of the population. I disagree; I don't remember getting less polite or less attentive or less obeying the law than I did 20 years ago.

I do agree some of these things are affected by age. I also believe there are far too many (senior seniors) behind the wheel that should not be.

The biggest culprit in the pile? ATTITUDE!!

Add them all up and there is only one answer.....get there and do it first (just kidding).......

Ave your breath and DRIVE DEFENSIVELY!!!

btk

Hear, hear.

[drdodge]

same way in Boston

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I've had the o.p.'s scenario happen several times while going north on Buena Vista, in the area of Rainey Trail and Belvedere circles and it is dangerous. What differs from Dr. Winston O Boogie's scenario quoted is this:

While I entered at 6:00 into the inner (left) lane intending to go straight and exit at 12:00, another car entered at 6:00 (not 3:00) and slightly behind me, then sped around in the right lane... and as I was exiting at 12:00, they got slightly ahead of me and cut across to the left to exit at 9:00, nearly swiping my front passenger side bumper or t-boning my passenger side. Fortunately I was on the lookout and held back as they zoomed to the left in front of me.

That is what the o.p. is talking about: turning left from the right lane....translating to: they should not have entered the circle in the right lane at 6:00 with intentions of exiting the circle on the left at 9:00. (Should have entered in the left lane at 6:00.

Mike in Post #6 understood it that way, too, I'm pretty sure.

The car on your right was clearly in the wrong. If he entered at 6:00 and want to exit at 9:00 or back at 6:00 he should have been in the left hand lane. You can avoid most accidents by expecting people to do the wrong thing, but if there was a collision in this case, the other person would have been totally at fault.