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Old 01-16-2016, 09:55 AM
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I read the online news daily, even checking back occasionally for any new items. I do think it's a good idea to be informed about what's going on here, good or bad. That said, it's beyond me as to why people are arrested and the online news deems it's necessary to publish their employers name. I've seen it time and time again and just don't agree with doing it.
Just yesterday, a Bob Evans employee accused of lewd conduct with a minor... before reading the story are we to think this happened at the restaurant? I've seen bars, restaurants, landscapers, etc. all have their name published because of an ill deed by a current or former employee. I think it's incredibly unfair to the businesses who have made a home here. I'll add though, if the bad guys were teachers, police, elected officials, etc. then it would be necessary to know who they're involved with professionally.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:02 AM
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I read the online news daily, even checking back occasionally for any new items. I do think it's a good idea to be informed about what's going on here, good or bad. That said, it's beyond me as to why people are arrested and the online news deems it's necessary to publish their employers name. I've seen it time and time again and just don't agree with doing it.
Just yesterday, a Bob Evans employee accused of lewd conduct with a minor... before reading the story are we to think this happened at the restaurant? I've seen bars, restaurants, landscapers, etc. all have their name published because of an ill deed by a current or former employee. I think it's incredibly unfair to the businesses who have made a home here. I'll add though, if the bad guys were teachers, police, elected officials, etc. then it would be necessary to know who they're involved with professionally.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:14 AM
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v-i-l-l-a-g-e-s-n-e-w-s.com is the result of someone following that classic marketing advice, "Find a niche and fill it." -- (If you leave out all those hyphens except the one between the words villages and news, you should be able to find the online newspaper that has its name blocked by TOTV.)

Yes. I read it. I read pretty much anything I find about TV.

I do wish the editor would do a little housekeeping to make things easier to navigate........

The bar across the top of the page says Opinions where I think it should say Columns. As the paper has gone through its growing pains, some things seem to have been shuffled around. I like to read the column by Barry Evans and also the one by the guy who writes health stuff and the entertainment reviewer. Their columns are under "Opinions." Even though columns are often mostly opinions, I think these regular writers are columnists and should be indexed under columns.

And speaking of opinions, I do not find anything under Letters to the Editor except how to submit a letter, which I do not want to do. I just want to read what others have written.

Also, every now and then, it looks like the proofreading did not happen. -- And yes, I know I bastardize the heck outa punctuation and all kinds of other things, but that's different......

Oh well, Meta Minton has not contacted me and asked me how to run her paper. But that has not stopped me from taking the opportunity here to go on and on with unsolicited advice about how to make it more reader-friendly and/or better organized.

There is good reason for the success of Meta Minton's online news. She has found a niche and is filling it.

Read on. I intend to.

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Old 01-16-2016, 10:15 AM
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I read the online news daily, even checking back occasionally for any new items. I do think it's a good idea to be informed about what's going on here, good or bad. That said, it's beyond me as to why people are arrested and the online news deems it's necessary to publish their employers name. I've seen it time and time again and just don't agree with doing it.
Just yesterday, a Bob Evans employee accused of lewd conduct with a minor... before reading the story are we to think this happened at the restaurant? I've seen bars, restaurants, landscapers, etc. all have their name published because of an ill deed by a current or former employee. I think it's incredibly unfair to the businesses who have made a home here. I'll add though, if the bad guys were teachers, police, elected officials, etc. then it would be necessary to know who they're involved with professionally.
That's something that also doesn't sit well with me. Often the business name is featured prominently in the headline and the arrest has absolutely nothing to do with the employer. You'd think a practice like that would hurt their advertising program.

Now it's much different in the case of the Athens waiter or the Arby's employee a while back stealing money from the business. Those are directly related.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:45 AM
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If it's the LAYOUT that the OP finds so offensive, my mild suggestion is to install ad blocking software. (I personally don't begrudge the ads because they allow me to read for free.)

As others have said, programs exist to help cut and paste, but you can easily copy just the article text without any of the surrounding ads.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:48 AM
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I read the online news daily, even checking back occasionally for any new items. I do think it's a good idea to be informed about what's going on here, good or bad. That said, it's beyond me as to why people are arrested and the online news deems it's necessary to publish their employers name. I've seen it time and time again and just don't agree with doing it.
Just yesterday, a Bob Evans employee accused of lewd conduct with a minor... before reading the story are we to think this happened at the restaurant? I've seen bars, restaurants, landscapers, etc. all have their name published because of an ill deed by a current or former employee. I think it's incredibly unfair to the businesses who have made a home here. I'll add though, if the bad guys were teachers, police, elected officials, etc. then it would be necessary to know who they're involved with professionally.
Don't really understand your double standard, but I think the vast majority of people understand that a bad employee does not necessarily mean the business owner or business is bad. Likewise, a bad cop does not necessarily equate to a bad police organization. Carrying it further, I don't think a bad kid necessarily means the parents were/are bad parents. I know I don't.
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Old 01-16-2016, 11:39 AM
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Don't really understand your double standard, but I think the vast majority of people understand that a bad employee does not necessarily mean the business owner or business is bad. Likewise, a bad cop does not necessarily equate to a bad police organization. Carrying it further, I don't think a bad kid necessarily means the parents were/are bad parents. I know I don't.
I don't think it's a double standard at all. If a junior high school teacher was having sex with one or more students you don't think the public and parents should be aware? If for nothing else than the safety of their children? I think that is vastly different than a random business employee doing the same thing. I think those that I mentioned before are in a position of public trust and should be held to a higher standard. If you think that is a double standard, then it is what it is. We all have different opinions.
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That's something that also doesn't sit well with me. Often the business name is featured prominently in the headline and the arrest has absolutely nothing to do with the employer. You'd think a practice like that would hurt their advertising program.

Now it's much different in the case of the Athens waiter or the Arby's employee a while back stealing money from the business. Those are directly related.
Amen! They slander a business for what an employee did at home or in the parking lot at a bar late night after work. Imagine if every mug shot and article title listed the name of the bar where the drunk drinks every night and hangs out the most. The resident bar flies would have FITS that their favorite bar owner was being characterized by the slob who got arrested for burglary, rape or whatever.
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Old 01-16-2016, 06:34 PM
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Amen! They slander a business for what an employee did at home or in the parking lot at a bar late night after work. Imagine if every mug shot and article title listed the name of the bar where the drunk drinks every night and hangs out the most. The resident bar flies would have FITS that their favorite bar owner was being characterized by the slob who got arrested for burglary, rape or whatever.
That's all I'm trying to say. It's totally irrelevant where someone works in most cases when they are arrested.
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:03 PM
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That's all I'm trying to say. It's totally irrelevant where someone works in most cases when they are arrested.
Not necessarily. An employees character is of utmost importance in their consideration for employment with a reputable business whether it be retail or a contractor. If I notice a pattern with a certain business I will come to my own conclusion. It also puts employers on notice to be vigilant in their hiring practices. I see nothing wrong with naming the employer. Full transparency in a free society allows people to make the right decisions.
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:17 PM
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Amen! They slander a business for what an employee did at home or in the parking lot at a bar late night after work. Imagine if every mug shot and article title listed the name of the bar where the drunk drinks every night and hangs out the most. The resident bar flies would have FITS that their favorite bar owner was being characterized by the slob who got arrested for burglary, rape or whatever.
Slander? I do not think so. Simply reporting where an alleged perpetrator or a criminal is employed does not constitute slander. Slander is a false and malicious ORAL statement about a person or business. The online news service provides as accurate as available printed information which is not malicious or false.
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:26 PM
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Not necessarily. An employees character is of utmost importance in their consideration for employment with a reputable business whether it be retail or a contractor. If I notice a pattern with a certain business I will come to my own conclusion. It also puts employers on notice to be vigilant in their hiring practices. I see nothing wrong with naming the employer. Full transparency in a free society allows people to make the right decisions.
Obviously you've never been an employer in the restaurant-bar or fast-food business, trying to hire only employees of utmost, sterling character.

Splash their name and picture across the front page of a newspaper because they got drunk and mouthy, or high, and see how that "publicity" (which some villagers on here salivate for) helps them be employable once they pay their fines and complete their sentences.
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Old 01-16-2016, 07:51 PM
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I don't think it's a double standard at all. If a junior high school teacher was having sex with one or more students you don't think the public and parents should be aware? If for nothing else than the safety of their children? I think that is vastly different than a random business employee doing the same thing. I think those that I mentioned before are in a position of public trust and should be held to a higher standard. If you think that is a double standard, then it is what it is. We all have different opinions.
Then do you decide to pull your child out of that school district? Or do you realize that it was an individual and not the principal or the school itself that did anything wrong? Similar to a business, I think. So if an employee does something wrong that may not even be related to work, why would you think it would hurt the business or the owner?
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:00 PM
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Amazing, go on FREE web site to get news then complain about. why not just not go there if you don't like the reporting? I want to know if some drugged out idiot, thief, drunk that drives, ECT...lives in my neighborhood.
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Not necessarily. An employees character is of utmost importance in their consideration for employment with a reputable business whether it be retail or a contractor. If I notice a pattern with a certain business I will come to my own conclusion. It also puts employers on notice to be vigilant in their hiring practices. I see nothing wrong with naming the employer. Full transparency in a free society allows people to make the right decisions.
Does it need to be in the headline though? I can see it maybe mentioned later on in the story, but front and center from the start for an incident that has nothing to do with the business?
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