[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

WHERE would you find better health care than at The Cleveland Clinic, Philadelphia Childrens, Anderson Cancer, Johns Hopkins, The Mayo?

WHERE?

You are the queen of Bing. Type in best healthcare in the world. Americans only think they are the best but once you have traveled overseas you find that we are simply full of ourselves.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

WHERE would you find better health care than at The Cleveland Clinic, Philadelphia Childrens, Anderson Cancer, Johns Hopkins, The Mayo?

WHERE?

You can find it easily if you are in the upper 1%. Poor Blacks, Browns, and etc. living in ghettos do NOT get luxury hospital treatment - often they get zero treatment.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

You are the queen of Bing. Type in best healthcare in the world. Americans only think they are the best but once you have traveled overseas you find that we are simply full of ourselves.

Spot on!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Absolutely spot on. - Most wasted taxpayer money and outcomes around 30th in the free world.

30th? LOL

An extremely flawed statistical argument purported by the WHO, an organization I wouldn't let publish treatment guidelines for my dog, much less analyze and compare health care around the world compared to the US. Heck, they won't even admit the Wuhan flu started in China. Personally, I would pull all US funding away from them.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

You are the queen of Bing. Type in best healthcare in the world. Americans only think they are the best but once you have traveled overseas you find that we are simply full of ourselves.

I had a friend in Austria who had to wait three months to begin Breast cancer treatment.

I have traveled overseas. I have a daughter who lives now in London. I think the rankings are based on socialistic criteria rather than quality..

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I had a friend in Austria who had to wait three months to begin Breast cancer treatment.

I have traveled overseas. I have a daughter who lives now in London. I think the rankings are based on socialistic criteria rather than quality..

I think even in other countries the quality of care you receive depends on how much you can afford.

[mmignosa]

Thank you for the information. We appreciate everyone’s efforts in helping us stay healthy.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

30th? LOL

An extremely flawed statistical argument purported by the WHO, an organization I wouldn't let publish treatment guidelines for my dog, much less analyze and compare health care around the world compared to the US. Heck, they won't even admit the Wuhan flu started in China. Personally, I would pull all US funding away from them.

Yes, really 30th. the US is that way in infant mortality, height, longevity, and MANY other "quality of life" measures. Scandinavian Countries and Switzerland are typically in the top 10. It is NOT rocket science. A simple google machine interlude will, like a crystal ball, reveal all! Dr. Google is ALL knowing.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I had a friend in Austria who had to wait three months to begin Breast cancer treatment.

I have traveled overseas. I have a daughter who lives now in London. I think the rankings are based on socialistic criteria rather than quality..

Socialistic criteria IS quality - quality of life - a much better yardstick of life worth living than CEO pay or GNP. The goal of a country (any country) should NOT be economic growth or population growth or pollution growth, but, rather people's quality of life growth. Like height, happiness, air quality, average education, health care opportunities, social upward mobility (incidentally the US is currently about 30th behind Estonia).

To put it simply, the "greed is good" mantra of most of our generation has left many of us shallow and purposeless. Societal improvement was the goal for a small % of our generation and they were the pioneers for any possible US future improvement. After the recent US failure to lead and the CV breakdown, the world is looking to more progressive and less greedy countries for leadership. We are in a tailspin!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Then explain why states with strict mask mandates like Pennsylvania are spiking at higher rates than states like Florida. In addition to mask mandates, Pennsylvania has limited indoor dining (none in Philadelphia), as well as many other limitations on businesses and gatherings.

I have explained that ad nauseam in past posts. Please feel free to read those. Thank you very much.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I have explained that ad nauseam in past posts. Please feel free to read those. Thank you very much.

Yes you have. And you still continue to do so. Why? Why do you feel the need to preach to us in every single Covid thread? Do you really think you are educating anyone? Do you really think you are changing anyone's minds? Or do you just like hearing yourself type? You already account for 30% of the posts in this thread alone. Just like every other Covid thread. Give it a rest for goodness sakes.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Yes you have. And you still continue to do so. Why? Why do you feel the need to preach to us in every single Covid thread? Do you really think you are educating anyone? Do you really think you are changing anyone's minds? Or do you just like hearing yourself type? You already account for 30% of the posts in this thread alone. Just like every other Covid thread. Give it a rest for goodness sakes.

Thank you, Mr. Swing. It is nice to feel so needed and cared about. I just humbly try to do my part.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I have explained that ad nauseam in past posts. Please feel free to read those. Thank you very much.

Like your post about Rhode Island ICU’s?!? Sorry, but you just like to pontificate without having actual facts to back up your posts. The last thing I intended to do is search through your old posts to find even more inaccuracies...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Swoop

Like your post about Rhode Island ICU’s?!? Sorry, but you just like to pontificate without having actual facts to back up your posts. The last thing I intended to do is search through your old posts to find even more inaccuracies...

My post about R.I. ICUs was accurate. They are overcrowded and sending patients elsewhere. What is more to say about that? Very straightforward. Fl. overall is a hot spot that has hospital staff extremely worried. The areas surrounding TV Land are the darkest of red on the national map. I am just talking REALITY. I have been told on this forum, "don't worry - be happy". But, I can't because I do worry. I just had a good friend test positive because they recently came back to TV Land on an Airlines flight. That is NOT "pontification" that is Reality! Our country is overrun with conspiracy theories and misinformation about CV. It does NOT hurt anyone in The Villages for me to try to balance it with truth. WE DO have a serious problem!

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

My post about R.I. ICUs was accurate. They are overcrowded and sending patients elsewhere. What is more to say about that? Very straightforward. Fl. overall is a hot spot that has hospital staff extremely worried. The areas surrounding TV Land are the darkest of red on the national map. I am just talking REALITY. I have been told on this forum, "don't worry - be happy". But, I can't because I do worry. I just had a good friend test positive because they recently came back to TV Land on an Airlines flight. That is NOT "pontification" that is Reality! Our country is overrun with conspiracy theories and misinformation about CV. It does NOT hurt anyone in The Villages for me to try to balance it with truth. WE DO have a serious problem!

Rhode Island has plenty of ICU capacity.
Some Rhode Island Covid patients are being moved to field hospital