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Old 09-24-2018, 07:56 AM
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There have been two [or more] postings claiming that pedophilia is not treatable. That is wrong. There is a large body of literature on the treatment of pedophilia. Use Google Scholar and search for treatment of pedophilia and get updated.
This is a good first link.
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There is an individual in my Village that has been accused of being on a file sharing site where he allegedly downloaded child porn.

I guess he attempted suicide after his arrest and failed. I suppose he tried to hang himself and now wears one of those neck cages.

My guess is this guy probably never committed a crime in his life, held a good job and never molested a child.

Im sort of ambivalent about arrests for watching child pornography. I agree that it is highly inappropriate and downright sickening but what real crime is he commtting? Watching a sick video?

Its quite likely he never did and never would touch a child. He probably gets his sick jollies just watching it. If convicted, he may go away for many years. I guess I find it odd that he can be sent to a prison never having hurt anyone and just watching a video.
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If a pedophile moves here isn’t it a possible sign he/she is trying to keep themselves away from temptations? It would certainly concern me if I knew my neighbor was a convicted pedophile and likely affect how much contact I would have. But the same would be true if they had been convicted of murder, drug trafficking, armed robbery, other types of child abuse, etc. But I believe that people are capable of change and deserve that chance. For me, I think I would rather not know any of that about my neighbors so I can build my own experience with them based on who they are here and now. But if they find my body buried in my neighbors backyard one day, I reserve the right to change my mind!
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There is an individual in my Village that has been accused of being on a file sharing site where he allegedly downloaded child porn.

I guess he attempted suicide after his arrest and failed. I suppose he tried to hang himself and now wears one of those neck cages.

My guess is this guy probably never committed a crime in his life, held a good job and never molested a child.

Im sort of ambivalent about arrests for watching child pornography. I agree that it is highly inappropriate and downright sickening but what real crime is he commtting? Watching a sick video?

Its quite likely he never did and never would touch a child. He probably gets his sick jollies just watching it. If convicted, he may go away for many years. I guess I find it odd that he can be sent to a prison never having hurt anyone and just watching a video.
Somebody had to make that video, and by watching it he is contributing to the demand for such a thing. Plus I read some of that is pay-per-view. It darn well should be illegal to download.
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There have been two [or more] postings claiming that pedophilia is not treatable. That is wrong. There is a large body of literature on the treatment of pedophilia. Use Google Scholar and search for treatment of pedophilia and get updated.
This is a good first link.
Do you think it is a sexual orientation?

I think that a person's sexual orientation is innate, almost all of the time. A genetic thing. I think I remember you disagreed with that.
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So...why? According to Umansky Law Firm: "While existing Florida law already restricted sexual offenders from living within 1,000 feet of parks, schools and other child-friendly places, various local ordinances set additional limitations, referred to as “no-go zones,” to further exclude this group of individuals from certain areas."

So can they even shop in places near schools and parks? I think the answer is no. Do they have a lot of trouble, vandalism, violence directed at them if there are kids in the neighborhood where they live? Its often the case. Also, they have to sell their house/move if a new school or park opens.

There is an entire town down near the Everglades where sex offenders live. There is a tacit agreement not to put schools/churches/parks etc. near this town.

For the most part, I do not sympathize with convicted sex offenders since their "suffering" is so much less than that of their victims. Admittedly, there are a few who are people who got too friendly at, for example, age 19 with a 17 year old girlfriend/boyfriend. I've seen documentaries on this. At any rate, TV is adult - not much chance of breaking the laws on proximity. I checked when I moved here and there is a sex offender on the next block. I think I know who. He keeps to himself. I think its not my business as long as he keeps to himself. However, I do think any grandparent whose grandkids will visit needs to google up the sex offender map. Otherwise I think we will be OK. We can't put them all in the Everglades.
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The other site reports them when they move in and shows their picture. There are probably other people who are previously convicted of bad stuff who live here too.

There is nothing we can do to keep them out or make them leave. Their rights are protected. Only kids under nineteen can be excluded. They can only visit here a total of 30 days in a year.

I really believe that we have an awful lot of good people who have never been in trouble with the law, and have always paid their bills and taken care of their responsibilities who live here. But I was born optimistic and went to a retreat once where they said it was best to try to find good in situations and people. Every once in awhile I remember to do that. Most of the time I jump to conclusions.
You're right, we do have 95.5% good people living here. But your question was the bad people live here too. Yes, you're right about that too & these people aren't going to share their prison time or the felony they committed to the sales office, then it'll be to late just to tell them to leave because you have a record. Guess we just got to hope we don't have any disasters here with these people. But you know as well as I do, even a good person could go bad!
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I have no problem living in neighbor hood with gay , bi or trans individuals just don't flaunt it to me I don't care or want to know what your do in you bedroom, pedophiles well thats another story surgical lifestyle change should be in order if convicted of sexual abuse.
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Somebody had to make that video, and by watching it he is contributing to the demand for such a thing. Plus I read some of that is pay-per-view. It darn well should be illegal to download.

Absolutely! It wouldn’t exist if bad guys weren’t making $ from it and the children wouldn’t be hurt in the creating of it. How could anyone want to look at it? Despicable and depraved.
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Absolutely! It wouldn’t exist if bad guys weren’t making $ from it and the children wouldn’t be hurt in the creating of it. How could anyone want to look at it? Despicable and depraved.
That was the original premise of banning child pornography. It seems that is no longer the case. Most child porn is shared, not sold, on the internet.
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Do you think it is a sexual orientation?

I think that a person's sexual orientation is innate, almost all of the time. A genetic thing. I think I remember you disagreed with that.
You are confusing different aspects of sexuality. Orientation has to do with preferring a gender of your partner whether same and/or different than your own. It has nothing to do with age. So as a cis straight male my preferred partner is a female of legal age. When I was 22 that was certainly not a 65 year old woman although it would have been legal and consistent with my genetically influenced orientation. So age preference is mutable. As can be other physical characteristics of choice, body shape, hair color, race, tattoos etc.

I don't recall having ever suggested that orientation was not innate. There are likely genetic, epigenetic, and both intra and extra uterine environmental factors in play.
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We've had zealots post names of all registered gun owners. Sex offenders is also out there.
I assume your intent was NOT to draw some sort of moral (or immoral) equivalency between these 2 demographics. Though I'm sure there are some out there that would do so if there was a chance it could further an agenda. For me, being on a published list of legal gun owners wouldn't scare me anywhere near as much as being on a published list of non-owners. How are those gun-free zone signs working out so far?
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Stop and think - why is this one crime singled out ? Why isn't there a drug dealers registry ? A Felons registry? An arsonist list ? Animal abuser List ? Murderers List ?
A lot of hidden money behind the Sex Offender Registry. It has made millions for some people and some companies. Interesting fact.
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Just had a pedophile move into the neighborhood. Don’t know what to make of it. Fortunately there are no kids in the neighborhood. But, if he wants to buy one of my golf carts I’m cool with that.
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Stop and think - why is this one crime singled out ? Why isn't there a drug dealers registry ? A Felons registry? An arsonist list ? Animal abuser List ? Murderers List ?
A lot of hidden money behind the Sex Offender Registry. It has made millions for some people and some companies. Interesting fact.
I am really confused by this statement. I can't see how it makes money. I would want to know who was drawn sexually to small children if I had small grandchildren who visited us.
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