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Old 10-11-2014, 06:27 AM
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Term limits and no pension. It should not be a lifetime get rich scheme!
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I DON'T trust any of them! They only care about themselves and their friends. They already know they will never do anything that they promise.
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Term limits and no pension. It should not be a lifetime get rich scheme!
Totally agree. But that would require congressional legislation. Chances are Slim and None, and Slim left town.
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Totally agree. But that would require congressional legislation. Chances are Slim and None, and Slim left town.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you 100% and that is why we need a real grass roots organization to at least put the fear of ......... in them and make them realize they are not God's gift to mankind.
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Why is a political ad more effective when repeated 100's of times...Enough is enough....After this wave of ads get ready for presidential candidates...We need a break....Yipsters!
..... and this is only mid-term, wait another couple of months for the Presidential ads to start bombarding the airwaves.
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Two things I feel would help our citizens to be fairly represented:

1. The end of PACS and Super PACS.
-Can you imagine the good all that $$ could do if the corporations and individuals
supporting the PACS and super PACS donated instead to education? Especially since most of the smear campaigns are financed by these. They seldom provide factual information.

2. Initiating a cap on campaign spending.
-Unfortunately in today's political world, the candidate with the most financial backing
seems to come out on top.

There are many ways to improve our very broken system. But these two would be a d*** good start in my humble opinion.
Agree. But both of these have been tried and the Supreme Court has judged those steps as unconstitutional (by the usual 5-4 vote) So at this point it will either take a Constitutional Amendment or a new justice with a different interpretation of the law to flip the finding on a new test case.
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I also agree on term limits and no insurance or pension.

Our founding fathers expected elected officials to serve, and then go back to their original vocation. They never dreamed of the career politicians we have today.

Many people object to the ACA, but anyone who serves only one term in federal office has top tier health insurance for the rest of their life. That is the health care plan that is truly offensive.

Eliminating this perk would also be on my short list.
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As I listen to the political ads, I think.....Why are these people running for office? It sounds like they should be in jail.
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One of them certainly should.
Having retired last month from HCA, I am all too aware of the details there. We were shocked that someone with that record was ever elected to political office. I hope voters in our state do their homework prior to this election.
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Term limits and no pension. It should not be a lifetime get rich scheme!
Florida has term limits, and it doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference. It just means politicians have to move quicker to feather their nest, be it moving on to another political job or some state or university job or becoming a lobbyist.
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Florida has term limits, and it doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference. It just means politicians have to move quicker to feather their nest, be it moving on to another political job or some state or university job or becoming a lobbyist.
True. And don't forget moving to another state, or to the other party, to run for office from there.
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Many people object to the ACA, but anyone who serves only one term in federal office has top tier health insurance for the rest of their life. That is the health care plan that is truly offensive.
Dottie, I have seen that belief repeatedly on this site. It is a complete myth, a packaged anti-ACA wildly wrong piece of political disinformation.


Members of Congress participate in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program along with about 8 million federal workers, retirees and their dependents. They are subject to the same rules and receive the same coverage.
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Dottie, I have seen that belief repeatedly on this site. It is a complete myth, a packaged anti-ACA wildly wrong piece of political disinformation.


Members of Congress participate in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program along with about 8 million federal workers, retirees and their dependents. They are subject to the same rules and receive the same coverage.
The only "myth" said here about their insurance is that they get it "for free". They pay about 30% of their premium and the taxpayer pays the other 70%.

Dotti didn't say they get it for free. She said they GET it, and they get many choices by the way. The 20+ private health plans and rates they choose from can all be seen on OPM.gov by state.

THAT is what's offensive to average citizens now forced into a bronze ACA plan with premium over $350 per month and a deductible of $4000 with no subsidy for a low middle-income family. It's making them NOT go to the doctor or ER when they need to, because they don't have the cash to pay the bills when deductible isn't met yet!

It's also causing more unpaid bills in ERs and their hospitals, because ERs can't refuse anyone and now more people have a high deductible they cannot pay.
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Critical thinking in the schools....are you nuts? Where in the world would we get someone to teach that?
And the last time you set foot in a classroom was??????
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Two things I feel would help our citizens to be fairly represented:

1. The end of PACS and Super PACS.
-Can you imagine the good all that $$ could do if the corporations and individuals
supporting the PACS and super PACS donated instead to education? Especially since most of the smear campaigns are financed by these. They seldom provide factual information.

2. Initiating a cap on campaign spending.
-Unfortunately in today's political world, the candidate with the most financial backing
seems to come out on top.

There are many ways to improve our very broken system. But these two would be a d*** good start in my humble opinion.
Are you aware of the First Amendment to the US Constitution? Free Speech. And the amounts spent by PACs and Super PAC's are more then matched by union contributions of funds taken from their member's dues. At least with PAC's donations are Voluntary.
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