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Old 01-22-2021, 09:21 AM
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Just wear a mask wherever you go like we do in the Northeast...not that big of a deal. We would never dream of going anywhere in public without one and this will be our life for at least another year, covid vaccines or not ! We are in our 70s and hope to live to see our youngest grand kids get married etc and enjoy another 20 years at least of the good life ! Wearing a hospital mask with maybe a decorative one over it is also recommended - double masking if in close quarters such as a plane or public transport is recommended ! My husband is a retired physician and our daughter is an ER physician - we take this virus seriously !!!
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... after reading Page 1.

Please, folks, please... if you choose not to wear a mask to protect yourself, OK. But I beg you to wear one to protect me, and others like me who if they get infected will become very, very sick or probably die.

That’s not my opinion, but what my doctors tell me. I beg you to do my wife and I the favor of helping to keep us well. Please just wear a mask whenever you’re indoors or even outdoors if you’re near other people
And of course you will encounter the insensitive jerks who insist that you isolate yourself for the rest of your life, so as to not risk imminent death. Because their convenience is more important than your health.

You shouldn't even have to ask this request of other human beings. I'm sorry on behalf of Actual Humanity that you did.

I wear a mask inside buildings that aren't my own, and when I'm in a crowd where I'm unable to social distance.

At the postal centers, if I see someone coming my way, I will turn my head down so as not to breathe in their general direction and if I'm done with getting my mail, will walk as quickly away from the boxes as possible. If I see that I have to pass someone to get away, I'll do it at a distance, OR I will (yes, I really will) go the other way, because 4 steps of inconvenience on my part might save the life of someone else, and I'm okay with that.
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Ever-maskers and Never-maskers, the race to the bottom continues.

It really isn't that difficult, if you will be near someone outside your family/pod/bubble for more than a few seconds then wear a mask. If you are alone in your car or walking down a trail or grabbing your mail, then wearing a mask is helping no one. If you pass someone walking on the trail or grabbing mail and don't stop to talk then a mask is helping no one. But if you stop to talk, put the mask on; it really is that simple.

The virus is contagious but it isn't like childhood cooties, you don't catch it by simply walking past someone. I've seen people step off the sidewalk and into the golf cart lane to avoid walking past me on the sidewalk - the virus is contagious and deadly but not as deadly as being hit by a car.

Some people need to spend more time thinking about when masks make sense and less time demanding others wear masks from the moment they wake up.
if i see someone decked out in protection gear it tells me this person is probably high-risk & i just avoid them. i smile, wave & allow them to pass 1st, then move onto another area altogether until they've gone. basic common sense goes a long way
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So don’t get your mail
I will pick up my mail and do anything I want to and would like to see somebody try and stop me.
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I am not wearing a mask to get my freaking mail.
Good luck with that. You think this virus gives a crap what kind of bldg you are in when it decides to attach to you? I personally believe that mask protect me, as well as you.
Seriously, what's the big deal- get the bandit/scarf kind...you just always have it on and you slip it into place when needed AND it hides those ugly jowels.
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Our new President sign an executive order mandating mask be worn on government property? Are the postal centers considered “government property”?

Keep your answers non-political! :-)
What difference does it make? I do not understand why the masks are such a big deal with some people. Re: covid 19. Since there is as I understand it a 2 week gestation period not wearing a mask? It is possible your act has killed someone. You would not know. It does not mean you did not kill them.
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No, and the person working in them are NOT postal employees, they are contractors.
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Old 01-22-2021, 11:28 AM
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Our new President sign an executive order mandating mask be worn on government property? Are the postal centers considered “government property”?

Keep your answers non-political! :-)
Simple answer is No
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Old 01-22-2021, 11:35 AM
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Our new President sign an executive order mandating mask be worn on government property? Are the postal centers considered “government property”?

Keep your answers non-political! :-)
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No the postal stations, even the new post office, are leased.
The fact property is "leased" doesn't make it government or non-government property. I would guess that the majority of local post office BUILDING is on a "leased" property from a non-governmental landlord but the operation itself is definitely "governmental" so the mandate would apply. As for The Villages postal centers, that might require a constitutional amendment.


Actually I found this:
ON BUYING AND OWNING A POST OFFICE - The New York Times

Despite the ever-present American flags flying above all United States post offices, the United States Postal Service actually owns only 3,691 buildings. The remaining 28,743 post offices in the United States are leased from other owners.

''They make very good investments,'' said Harry Eisenberg, whose Yonkers firm of O'Keefe & Eisenberg specializes in postal properties. ''There's very little management, and you get your rent on the first of the month.''
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What difference does it make? He had his photo taken inside a "federal government" building without his mask on right after he signed the unconstitutional order, so why would you care? I don't and won't let it make a difference to me.
As for whether or not you SHOULD wear a mask when getting your mail, if you are outside and distanced from anyone else, use your common sense.
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I think your real question is "do I have to wear a mask at my neighborhood postal station." Whether it is mandated in a particular place or not, you should wear a mask when around others not of your household. It's going to be a long time before enough people are vaccinated to give us herd immunity and wearing masks and washing our hands is our best defense until then. It's such a small thing, really. Please do it, to protect yourself and others.
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Our new President sign an executive order mandating mask be worn on government property? Are the postal centers considered “government property”?

Keep your answers non-political! :-)
Why NOT just wear your mask because it is the RIGHT thing to do. That is what government leaders and medical experts are saying (for OUR benefit). There is a NEW virus strain with its HUGE viral load that will probably take over in Florida in about a week - it will be more transmissible - more cases will become more DEATHS. Hospitals are suing some patients for their CV stay (if they live).

Vaccines will NOT reach 80% of Americans until around June at best case prediction and Dec by some predictions. So, what are we left with "sports fans". We are left for the next months with masks and social distance. If that does NOT work, then it is BACK to LOCKDOWNS - not back to a normal future. England is MANDATING a SEVERE lockdown and it has NOT STOPPED this NEW variant. So, "sport fans" if you do NOT want a SEVERE lockdown with no nightly square entertainment and no golfing for eagles, then logic says you should moderate your behavior and do NOT even ever question what the medical experts say, "wear the damn mask". As Dick Cheney said, " real men wear masks". Do NOT question V.P. Cheney!!!!!!
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Old 01-22-2021, 12:57 PM
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I am not wearing a mask to get my freaking mail.
That attitude will end up disrupting the going back to normal that is on the verge of happening in a few months with the improved vaccine distribution actions that are planned. Most people want "normal" not lockdowns with no music in the squares, the swimming pools closed, and no more golfing for eagles. PEOPLE - we are on the verge of making "normal" happen, don't screwdriver it up!
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Our new President sign an executive order mandating mask be worn on government property? Are the postal centers considered “government property”?

Keep your answers non-political! :-)
Do you wear a mask when you pick up your mail outside, in The Villages...no matter whether or not it is ordered to do so? I live directly in view of our little building and parking lot in Bridgeport at Laurel Valley that has only 54 boxes for 54 homes here in this small village. I see about maybe one in ten people wearing masks to get their mail. We sadly had a death here in our small village this week from Covid-19.

We haven't worn masks to get the mail, but it might need to be reconsidered now that we know that a much more contagious form of this virus is among us. I doubt that anyone will ever check on this...but it is better to be safe than sick.
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