[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Was it Rittenhouse stupid decision or was it the stupid decision of the three thugs that ran after and attack a person with a gun. If I have a gun and you have your fist and a skateboard and you threaten my life and you run after me who’s the stupid one. When you are chasing me and I am running from you I turn around and point my gun and you still try to jump me….again who is the stupid one. I have a gun and I am on my back on the ground and you hit over the head with a skateboard as I have my gun who is the stupid one.
If I point a gun at your face and you shot me who is the stupid one. Oh and let’s not forget how on the stand he tell the truth and said he pointed a gun at Rittenhouse face and then 2 days later goes on Good Morning American where the host let’s him lie about what happen…….it was so shameful.

Had the thugs left him a lone they would be here today, committing more crimes and hurt more kids as they did in lives.

I wish you watch all 8 days with an open mind and not the mind of the haters of MSM

Dumb me what is MSM?

[Taltarzac725]

Is this a stranger or someone you know in some way who exits from your neighbor's house?

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Just sayin....
You live in The Villages and own a couple guns.
One afternoon you hear a lot of yelling and a shot is fired. Turns out it is at your next door neighbors house. You grab on of your guns and walk out your front door. A man exits next door out the front of your neighbors.
You raise your gun....and the man does as well. The man fires killing you and is later arrested and charged with murder.
His defense; he felt his life was threatened and shot in self defense.
Is he guilty or not of killing you?

[Neils]

Originally Posted by JSR22

Totally agree. I hope goes to jail for life.

He should have allowed the law breaking criminals to chase him down and then kill or maim him. Thats the American way today.

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Dumb me what is MSM?

MSM = Main Stream Media

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Just sayin....
You live in The Villages and own a couple guns.
One afternoon you hear a lot of yelling and a shot is fired. Turns out it is at your next door neighbors house. You grab on of your guns and walk out your front door. A man exits next door out the front of your neighbors.
You raise your gun....and the man does as well. The man fires killing you and is later arrested and charged with murder.
His defense; he felt his life was threatened and shot in self defense.
Is he guilty or not of killing you?

Guess you would never know, since you were killed.
If he only shot and wounded you, then it would be a different scenario, right?
Murder requires evil intent (Mens rea). Hard to prove this when the guy was cleaning graffiti, putting out fires and offering first aid.

Next....

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Dumb me what is MSM?

Typically, those sources that don't peddle outright lies and wacko conspiracy theories. They can often be identified, by a lack of aluminum foil purchased by the case.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Dumb me what is MSM?

MSM=
Methylsulfonylmethane

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Just sayin....
You live in The Villages and own a couple guns.
One afternoon you hear a lot of yelling and a shot is fired. Turns out it is at your next door neighbors house. You grab on of your guns and walk out your front door. A man exits next door out the front of your neighbors.
You raise your gun....and the man does as well. The man fires killing you and is later arrested and charged with murder.
His defense; he felt his life was threatened and shot in self defense.
Is he guilty or not of killing you?

This scenario is exactly why you should NOT grab your gun and exit your home unless you are a member of the police force. How do you know that the person exiting the neighbor’s home is the perpetrator of a crime? What if the shot you heard fired was done in anger at a TV by your neighbor, and his guest secured the firearm taking it outside away from your neighbor? In this limited information scenario you would do best to call 911 to report the potential shot you heard and stay in your home. You could make your firearm available to you inside your home if you were concerned about a potential home invasion.

Should the person subsequently attempt to enter your home uninvited, the “Castle Doctrine” would apply and you would potentially be shielded from prosecution and civil liability. You would still need to consult an attorney to interact on your behalf as you could still be charged.

Should you not have concealed carry insurance (which should cover you in the home), you might want to consider the cost of an attorney and potential trial costs versus the annual premium.

[IMPidd]

If not Dismissed With Prejudice... Hung Jury

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Let's get people on the record before the verdict comes in.
This is your prediction of what the jury will do - not what you want the jury to do.

The choices are

Guilty on all counts
Guilty on some counts
Not guilty
Hung jury

Guilty on possession of a dangerous weapon by a minor. Not guilty on the other five counts.

Still, that presupposes that there will be only the original six counts he was charged with. I read yesterday that the prosecution is planning to ask the judge if they can included some other (unspecified) counts. It was phrased by the analyst as pretty much tantamount to admitting that their case against Rittenhouse is pretty flimsy and they don't want to walk away with nothing.

Anyway, the Court of Public Opinion has had its say. In light of what we've heard and seen, we should all be thankful that courts of LAW still decide guilt or innocence in America.

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by Alana33

Unfortunately, I believe that he will get away with murder. Read the autopsy results of his victims.
Especially, the one shot in the back.
The judge is prejudiced in this case.
This is a excellent reason to ban the sale of assault weapons. He was locked and loaded, looking for trouble. He killed 2 humans. Injured a third.
Those he killed have family and loved ones.
He wasn't sorry at the bar with the white supremacist group. He should be found guilty.

There are so many things wrong with this post. Another example of the influence of MSM and ignoring the actual trial transcripts.

[Trayderjoe]

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[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Trayderjoe

This scenario is exactly why you should NOT grab your gun and exit your home unless you are a member of the police force. How do you know that the person exiting the neighbor’s home is the perpetrator of a crime? What if the shot you heard fired was done in anger at a TV by your neighbor, and his guest secured the firearm taking it outside away from your neighbor? In this limited information scenario you would do best to call 911 to report the potential shot you heard and stay in your home. You could make your firearm available to you inside your home if you were concerned about a potential home invasion.

Should the person subsequently attempt to enter your home uninvited, the “Castle Doctrine” would apply and you would potentially be shielded from prosecution and civil liability. You would still need to consult an attorney to interact on your behalf as you could still be charged.

Should you not have concealed carry insurance (which should cover you in the home), you might want to consider the cost of an attorney and potential trial costs versus the annual premium.

This has nothing to do with the current case in the News.

It's about as relevant as this scenario:
A guy goes into the woods searching for firewood. He comes across a bear(or a wolf ,or a pack of wolves) and the bear charges. Hunting season is not for several more months. Does the guy shoot to defend himself or goes by the law and gets eaten? If he is in the woods seeking firewood, why does he have a gun on him? He says it is to protect himself from predators.

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Typically, those sources that don't peddle outright lies and wacko conspiracy theories. They can often be identified, by a lack of aluminum foil purchased by the case.

Wrong, once again.

[Trayderjoe]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

This has nothing to do with the current case in the News.

It's about as relevant as this scenario:
A guy goes into the woods searching for firewood. He comes across a bear(or a wolf ,or a pack of wolves) and the bear charges. Hunting season is not for several more months. Does the guy shoot to defend himself or goes by the law and gets eaten? If he is in the woods seeking firewood, why does he have a gun on him? He says it is to protect himself from predators.

I never said it applied to Rittenhouse which was an entirely different scenario. Was addressing the scenario in question, which was extremely limited in information.

The consequences for shooting a person are potentially more severe than shooting wild life, thus I would not equate the scenarios.