[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Wasn't there someone who said in the last thread on this topic that she was going to continue using the right lane?

That was me. I have been using the inside lane to travel 270 degrees in a roundabout so I'm doing my part to abide by the law.

I find that coming off Buena Vista Blvd south, I have to cross a solid white line to quickly get into the right lane to enter the resident entry for the Village of Duval. Isn't that a violation too??? Either way...I'm breaking the law so I don't know which is worse.

Another example of of using the inside lane for a 270 degree circulation and I don't feel comfortable is the roundabout at Stillwater and Morse. I want to get to the right lane quickly to take the roundabout bypass for Lake Sumter Landing and sometimes that's difficult with the heavy traffic flow.

I am abiding by the law but I'm still confused at to why it is dangerous to circulate in the right lane all the way around the roundabout. ALL cars must YIELD to ANYONE in the roundabout so why should it matter at what point a motorist enters the roundabout??? I'm at a loss about this.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by 2Wheels

/preachy on

Trust NO ONE in a roundabout.

Never be right next to another vehicle in a roundabout.

Always stagger your position so you have an OUT when needed.

/preachy off

From the very first time I ever drove in a TV roundabout, and always will, I staggered with any other car that was in the roundabout. I do that on regular straight away roads and interstates also....don't want to wind up in anyone's "blind spot".

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by Xavier

Ah, but is it Mr. X or could it be Ms X? All I know for sure is that it isn't this X!

Xavier

I deliberately omitted X's gender. My observations indicate violators are male, female, young, old, cars, vans, trucks, pick ups, domestic, foreign, ambulances, (not on call) and even an occasional deputy.

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by downeaster

I deliberately omitted X's gender. My observations indicate violators are male, female, young, old, cars, vans, trucks, pick ups, domestic, foreign, ambulances, (not on call) and even an occasional deputy.

I did notice that and I also noted that all of the other posters after you did the same except for the person I quoted in my original response in this thread.

I have noticed at the Springdale Round-about going north on Buena Vista that the outside lane has a large solid white line so that you must continue north. If you want to go around 270 to the Piedmont gate the way it is marked you have to be in the inner lane. It's very clearly marked that way. I'm wondering why there aren't more that are painted that way. It really makes it obvious.

[ricthemic]

There should only be one lane in the entire ROTARY (or build those bypasses like on Buena Vista South).
The vehicle entering MUST yield to the vehicle already in the rotary. Period. One lane >entering yields >no accidents. That is how it works in Massachusetts.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I am abiding by the law but I'm still confused at to why it is dangerous to circulate in the right lane all the way around the roundabout. ALL cars must YIELD to ANYONE in the roundabout so why should it matter at what point a motorist enters the roundabout??? I'm at a loss about this.

Very simple: It is possible that two cars can enter at the same time when going in the same direction if the rotary is clear. It happens all the time. In that case the right hand lane can not go past 180. BECAUSE: if they did go past 180 and the inside lane (who is right next to them remember) was only going 180 they would collide. Very simple.

Easy diagram:

http://www.districtgov.org/PdfUpload...INAL070908.pdf

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by ricthemic

There should only be one lane in the entire ROTARY (or build those bypasses like on Buena Vista South).
The vehicle entering MUST yield to the vehicle already in the rotary. Period. One lane >entering yields >no accidents. That is how it works in Massachusetts.

I agree. (But I do think we still have a couple of double laners left here in MA. I just can't think of where they are off the top of my head.)

But I do know that you can't exit from the inside lane of a rotary in MASS. You need to navigate to the outside to exit. Still dangerous.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by ricthemic

There should only be one lane in the entire ROTARY (or build those bypasses like on Buena Vista South).
The vehicle entering MUST yield to the vehicle already in the rotary. Period. One lane >entering yields >no accidents. That is how it works in Massachusetts.

Since no-one can agree/understand on how to negotiate a roundabout, it is a great idea to have only one lane in a rotary. Entering yields = no accidents. Simplicity always works best.

And I agree with ricthemic, the rotary bypasses on Buena Vista South are great.

[Yoda]

Massachusetts does a lot of dumb things but they have the right idea about rotary traffic.

The thing that bugs me in TV is that for some reason people seem to think it is OK to pass. Then they cut in front to exit.

Yoda

[GMONEY]

We had a driver get involved in a accident at the round-a-bout on Morse and Odell off of 466a, he was going north on Morse off 466a, entered the round about in the right lane. He was going 3/4 way around to continue on onto odell and was still in right lane. A young girl who was working in Lake Sumter Landing came up Morse in the same direction and entered the circle in the left lane. but she was going to contiue up morse so as she passed our truck, she tried to go right onto morse as our truck was continuing to go around, she caught the front of the truck and spun around. THis is what we were told.

Sumter County Sheriff's Office: Our driver was correct in his actions, he was in a large truck and should of been in the right lane (or outside lane) as he rounded the circle since the markings in the circle are dotted lines exiting the circle. Therefore he was not at fault. But since there was damage we had to await the FHP.

Florida Highway Patrol: They gave our driver the ticket for failing to yield the right of way in the traffic circle. he told us that our truck ( and all vehicle for that matter) should have entered the circle and went to the inside lane then switched back to the outside lane to exit on the other side. Even though we had 4 eye witness statements that said the young girl was flying around the circle and cut the truck off. I asked him what about the trucks blind spot if he goes into the inside lane. I also pointed out to the trooper about the markings being dotted lines. I took the trooper to the next circle north on Morse being Morse and Bonita and showed him on that circle the lines are solid at the exitiing points which mean you had to stay in that lane. He told us he didnt see it that way and we could take it to court and let the judge decide who is right.

So you got 2 different agency's and 2 different views. The SCSO is the one who pointed out the lines to us. One beind dotted and the other solid.

[Lou Card]

I have been in Round abouts all around the world and I find the way of the law in The Villages hard to follow. I know that both lanes have the right of way to leave the circle at each and every off shoot, but I have to concentrate on that every time I am in one. I seem to have a natural instict that I have the right of way to continue on my path from the outer lane and should not be concerned about the left lane traffic at all.
I think of Parliment and Big Ben in the Vacation Movie when in the inner lane and slow, look and shift to the right before I leave the round-a-bout. I know the law, but feel very strong that I am crossing into oncomeing traffic if I exit from the inner lane. Maybe the law needed a relook. Would making them all into one lane only slow down traffic significantly??

Lou

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Lou Card

I have been in Round abouts all around the world and I find the way of the law in The Villages hard to follow. I know that both lanes have the right of way to leave the circle at each and every off shoot, but I have to concentrate on that every time I am in one. I seem to have a natural instict that I have the right of way to continue on my path from the outer lane and should not be concerned about the left lane traffic at all.
I think of Parliment and Big Ben in the Vacation Movie when in the inner lane and slow, look and shift to the right before I leave the round-a-bout. I know the law, but feel very strong that I am crossing into oncomeing traffic if I exit from the inner lane. Maybe the law needed a relook. Would making them all into one lane only slow down traffic significantly??

Lou

You have the Village rule incorrect, Both lanes do not have the right of way.

[beady]

Massachusetts native here....learned to drive and negotiate roundabouts at the same time. The system here is crazy. And what makes it even more difficult, law enforcement agencies each have a different "opinion" about the correct use of the roundabouts.
TOTV member Chelsea was in a mishap and the officer at the scene said something about the proper way to negotiate the roundabouts were suggestions and there was no law enforceable rules for navigating them . How strange is that.
Bottomline.....I am EXTRA careful when driving the roundabouts and always mindful that I am the only one who really knows the correct way to enter and exit same. I have often done a complete circle to avoid being hit.

[billethkid]

of courtesy or logic or yielding. They are of the ilk the right of way is theirs to take....having been side swiped in the left lane of a circle where they reduce to one lane by an idiot speeding from behind me and in the right lane...tried to pass me while in the single lane area, actually hitting me and driving me up onto the planted circle on my left. He sais he knew he was in the wrong lane but figured he had plenty of time and room to make it.......I was in the one lane area when he hit me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bone headed, in a hurry to go no place, speeding inconsiderate. WHile in the minority, there are still too many of them.

Just nasty people.

btk

[beady]

So agree with billiethekid.......the person who hit you was in a hurry......which brings up the good point about the roundabouts.......just imagine the speeding that would take place if Buena Vista and Morse Blvds had no roundabouts......not a pretty picture. Then imagine the traffic lights at each village entry....nope not a pretty pic there either. Guess the roundabouts are the devil we know and we will have to drive carefully and suffer with them.