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Old 06-27-2014, 12:47 PM
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I would have to correct the OP: The person was stopped for the stop sign violation but arrested for DUI presumably.
According to the prohibited village news online site, she was cited both for DUI and failure to yield (which includes running a stop sign)
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:37 PM
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Some things, people and rules can and should be disregarded. However following the rules of the road is not one of them.

Stop means all four wheels have come to a complete rest for three seconds. When people disregard stop signs and stop lights they place other people in danger. I was very close to an intersection at 466 when a woman intentionally ran a stop light. The person being discussed on this thread has no regard for other people. and the pain and suffering that can be inflicted on others and their families because of their selfish attitude

This also goes for those individuals who travel the multi-modal path above the 19.9 mph speed limit.

I have faced families who suffered the consequences of bad/intoxicated and selfish drivers and it is not a pretty sight and often brought tears to my eyes

There is virtually no protection on golf carts and so it doesn't take much to cause serious injury or death
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:23 PM
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None of us know if the young lady who rolled through the stop sign at midnight sped through without slowing or if she slowed to an almost stop. I doubt that being on the Buena Vista Trail at midnight, there would be traffic to contend with.

She was stopped for the incomplete stop by the officer. He determined she was impaired by alcohol and he arrested her. This was a good arrest and she deserves the penalty.

Hopefully, the officer would have just warned her IF she had not been drinking and had slowed to an almost stop at midnight and she posed no danger to anyone. Speeding through the stop sign would be a different story.

Common sense has to come into play.
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:53 PM
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Stop signs are only a suggestion...don't ya think!!
Same with turn signals, don't ya think??! But that's another thread.
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Running a stop sing or red light is a bit different than what is referred to as a rolling stop.
I see nothing wrong in most case with rolling stops. At most stop sigs here in The Villages, I can see up to a half of a mile in either direction. I going about 4-5 mph. It's really quite ridiculous to come to a complete stop with zero rotation of the wheels for three seconds in most of those cases. In fact the police will not stop or ticket people for doing because they know that they are not causing any danger. Do we really want our police wasting their time stopping and harassing people for not adhering to the letter of the law. They don't want to be wasting their time.
I agree, if people are just flying through stop signs without slowing down and there is other traffic, pedestrians, or cyclists approaching it is a huge problem. But I think that reasonable people can see the difference in two different situations.
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Funny thing about STOP signs, your not in line till you STOP. This especially confusing at FOUR WAY STOPS. Some Di####D# rolls through and give you dirty look when you are stops which means I AM IN LINE! THEN there are the one's that DON"T use Their Turning signal lights.. SO now I have to GUESS They are going STRAIGHT, BUT NO wait THEY ARE turning and look at you like you did something wrong...... Far as I am concerned COPS need to camp out at STOP signs. They would make millions in month for the county and city. From all the D#$sI^^^ running stop signs. AND of course you know you suppose to stop BEHIND the STOP sign not half way out in the street. Now once you STOP for the STOP sign Then that's when you can roll forward in case a bush or tree, or H2o is blocking your view.
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Stop means stop...... Otherwise the sign would say slow roll!! Hey, it's the law, I didn't create it. It's a matter of integrity and honesty and safety....
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Stop means stop...... Otherwise the sign would say slow roll!! Hey, it's the law, I didn't create it. It's a matter of integrity and honesty and safety....
I like that. Your true integrity is something only you will know and I can't fool myself.
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Running a stop sing or red light is a bit different than what is referred to as a rolling stop.
I see nothing wrong in most case with rolling stops. At most stop sigs here in The Villages, I can see up to a half of a mile in either direction. I going about 4-5 mph. It's really quite ridiculous to come to a complete stop with zero rotation of the wheels for three seconds in most of those cases. In fact the police will not stop or ticket people for doing because they know that they are not causing any danger. Do we really want our police wasting their time stopping and harassing people for not adhering to the letter of the law. They don't want to be wasting their time.
I agree, if people are just flying through stop signs without slowing down and there is other traffic, pedestrians, or cyclists approaching it is a huge problem. But I think that reasonable people can see the difference in two different situations.
Doc - What you see as not being wrong seems to be in conflict with Florida statutes...I hope you never have to get into that discussion with a guy who has a ticket book in his hand and is asking you for your license, registration and insurance card!

The 2013 Florida Statutes
316.003 Definitions
(51) STOP.—When required, complete cessation from movement.
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316.123 Vehicle entering stop or yield intersection.—
(1) The right-of-way at an intersection may be indicated by stop signs or yield signs as authorized in s. 316.006.
(2)(a) Except when directed to proceed by a police officer or traffic control signal, every driver of a vehicle approaching a stop intersection indicated by a stop sign shall stop at a clearly marked stop line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then at the point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting roadway before entering the intersection. After having stopped, the driver shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle which has entered the intersection from another highway or which is approaching so closely on said highway as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time when the driver is moving across or within the intersection.
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Rolling stops are a plague every where. Pretty pathetic when you don't have time to come to a complete stop at a STOP sign.
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I am really happy that I still can identify STOP signs, it doesn't matter how many, I will and I do stop! The same counts for me regarding speed limits. When people passing me or do not stop at the signs I always smile because I feel so sorry for them.
I know that not everybody would like it what I am saying but I know also that there is always a reason that signs posted around us; at least these signs are helping us and everybody to drive/stay safe. How much time could/will I save at the end when driving faster or do not stop?
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Not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign used to be called hollywooding. Now Los Angeles has stop sign cameras. Maybe a sign of things to come.
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:46 PM
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I was a Motorcycle Safety Foundation Rider Coach. One day I was ticketed while riding my motorcycle for not stopping at a stop sign even though I did what is called a Pause and Go. The cop said he never saw me put my foot down which meant I had not stopped. I went to court and showed my Coaches Manual about what is called a Pause and Go. It is a maneuver on a motorcycle where you stop both wheels for just a fraction of a second without putting your foot down and then go. The ticket was removed from my license. So make sure all your wheels are stopped even for a fraction of second.
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