[defrey12]

Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake

These are very real concerns, you think traffic is bad now, it's going to get a lot worse. Forget about getting a doctors appointment in a reasonable amount of time. This isn't an alarmist ringing a bell, it's a reality.

If the thought of the 8,500 young people coming in and partaking in your daily town square activities at your expense doesn't bother you then you can go about your day. When the additional 10,000 more come in will it still not be a concern or will you just move?

Educate yourself, look at Stopgrandoaks.com and see for yourself. This is a reality not a scare tactic.

Do you actually think 8500 young people want to hang out with a bunch of old people dancing to the same bands and music night in and night out. I don’t. We quit going to the squares when we realized they’re little more than a marketing tool. And we don’t pay for them anyway…the businesses do.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake

These are very real concerns, you think traffic is bad now, it's going to get a lot worse. Forget about getting a doctors appointment in a reasonable amount of time. This isn't an alarmist ringing a bell, it's a reality.

If the thought of the 8,500 young people coming in and partaking in your daily town square activities at your expense doesn't bother you then you can go about your day. When the additional 10,000 more come in will it still not be a concern or will you just move?

Educate yourself, look at Stopgrandoaks.com and see for yourself. This is a reality not a scare tactic.

From what I have read, Grand Oaks is proposing 800 homes and Water Oaks is proposing about 300. Where are the other 7,400 homes that have been approved and 10,000 waiting to be approved?

Assuming the proper approvals, your neighbor has a right to develop his property. You do not have a right to your picturesque view. Want a nice view that is guaranteed for the future? Purchase the property yourself.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

From what I have read, Grand Oaks is proposing 800 homes and Water Oaks is proposing about 300. Where are the other 7,400 homes that have been approved and 10,000 waiting to be approved?

Assuming the proper approvals, your neighbor has a right to develop his property. You do not have a right to your picturesque view. Want a nice view that is guaranteed for the future? Purchase the property yourself.

And the drawings look like the whole development is a vast improvement over Orange Blossom and The Villages section which is mobile homes!

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake

Yes, I agree to your statement that the owner of a property has rights, my rights are being impacted. I bought and invested my home in a rural setting now someone is coming in and pushing me out of my property.

If I came in and put a High School in your front yard without you having prior knowledge would you open your arms to it?

There are those who like and enjoy urban and those who like and enjoy rural. What right does someone have to come in and force urban on me without my permission.

Are you saying we can only vote on what others think we should have?

I think you’re a bit confused. Property rights are just that. Rights. Given in the Constitution. You’re just a “NIMBY” guy. It’s their property to do with as the law—ZONING—allows. You just don’t like it. It’s called progress. If you don’t like it, YOU have the right and freedom to move. This is still America…last I checked.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

And the drawings look like the whole development is a vast improvement over Orange Blossom and The Villages section which is mobile homes!

But according to their website:

Manufactured Home - The term "Manufactured Home" was conceived by the Mobile Home manufacturers and dealers in the late 1970's in an attempt to destigmatize the "mobile home" and increase sales. A Manufactured Home is a mobile home and is not the same as a Modular House! Removing the hitch and axles does not suddenly transform a mobile home into a Modular House.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by blueash

Wow, if each of these 8500 communities has 125 people that is a million new residents in Lady Lake. It will get crowded with a million new people. If only they were all OVER 55+, then at least it would still get quiet at 9 PM

Over 55 or under 55, Florida has a PROBLEM of the population growth ALWAYS exceeding the roads to handle the bigger population. And roads are just one obvious downside to RAPID population growth. Government services, Police, and other services will be spread thin. The older middle class in this area will be the BIG loser.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

Exactly. Why should people younger than us expect to have a house to live in?

Except for those happy to serve us in restaurants and do our gardens, of course - they can stay.

The obvious question is......do lower wage workers bring ANY problems with them into a "so-called" over-55 community. If retirees wanted to live close to the younger population, they would have moved to Orlando or Tampa. But, they EXPECTED a certain lifestyle from a large over-55 community like The Villages.

[ThirdOfFive]

With all due respect…this smacks of “I have my little piece of heaven. Now everyone else stay away”.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

With all due respect…this smacks of “I have my little piece of heaven. Now everyone else stay away”.

The fear is, the little piece of heaven will be Orlando in 5 years....... it's certainly headed in that direction.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Randall55

Where do you expect the people who work in this area to live? In towns, hours away from their jobs? Yes, it will get crowded. Most of us realized this years ago. We each have two choices: accept the Villages will be as large as Tampa and Orlando or move.

The question is if it is POSSIBLE to have GROWTH without undermining the good qualities of the current lifestyle here. That is what residents are worried about.

[Bellavita]

Its called Urban Sprawl

Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake

The Town has approved 8,500 new residential communities that ARE NOT 55+. There are several properties that are asking Town for re-zoning and annexation to allow another potential 10,000 more just in the immediate area of Griffin Ave and also 466 area.

Tell your Ward Commissioners to VOTE NO on these requests. We have enough traffic and other inconveniences such as not being able to get timely medical appointments. Please tell Town and Commission NO MORE DENSITY

[SaveTownofLadyLake]

I'm not against someone developing their property, I do have a problem with how it's developed. You can't put a size 10 foot in a size 6 shoe and expect to walk without problems.

Lake County does not allow for this type of development for what it is, so the idea is to rezone and annex the land to circumvent the system to do it anyway...that is the issue.

3, 5, 10 acre lots with reasonable modest homes yes, I'll be for that all day long, 800 manufactured homes and 34 other buildings to go with it, I'm not so sure.

This is happening all around the Town of Lady Lake. Just look at the Zoning WEB Site and see the number of requests for rezoning and annexations being requested all of them for changing agricultural land over to medium density housing. They are putting 100 homes on five acre lots thats where the other 10,000 people are going right in the 466 area.

Walmart is trying to squeeze in also and are taking down large mature canopy oak trees that are near 200 years old. Do we really need another Walmart?, there are already 3 in a five mile radius.

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake

You can joke about this all you want, the homes are low, middle income mobile homes price point high of 170k.

So, rather like those that kick-started The Villages.

We'd better raze the Historic section while we're at it, as we don't want cheap housing in "our" neighborhood.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake

Yes, I agree to your statement that the owner of a property has rights, my rights are being impacted. I bought and invested my home in a rural setting now someone is coming in and pushing me out of my property.

If I came in and put a High School in your front yard without you having prior knowledge would you open your arms to it?

There are those who like and enjoy urban and those who like and enjoy rural. What right does someone have to come in and force urban on me without my permission.

Are you saying we can only vote on what others think we should have?

WOW....I guess now you know what the native Floridians or before them Native Americans thought.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by SaveTownofLadyLake

I'm not against someone developing their property, I do have a problem with how it's developed. You can't put a size 10 foot in a size 6 shoe and expect to walk without problems.

Lake County does not allow for this type of development for what it is, so the idea is to rezone and annex the land to circumvent the system to do it anyway...that is the issue.

3, 5, 10 acre lots with reasonable modest homes yes, I'll be for that all day long, 800 manufactured homes and 34 other buildings to go with it, I'm not so sure.

This is happening all around the Town of Lady Lake. Just look at the Zoning WEB Site and see the number of requests for rezoning and annexations being requested all of them for changing agricultural land over to medium density housing. They are putting 100 homes on five acre lots thats where the other 10,000 people are going right in the 466 area.

Walmart is trying to squeeze in also and are taking down large mature canopy oak trees that are near 200 years old. Do we really need another Walmart?, there are already 3 in a five mile radius.

Maybe there is a terminology problem. They seem to be proposing six homes per acre or 30 homes on five acres, not 100 homes on five acre lots. Six homes per acre is the density of the Villages. 100 homes on five acres would need to be an apartment building.

I still don't see the additional 7,400 approved homes or the 10,000 proposed homes.