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Old 05-31-2014, 08:13 PM
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I think we could look at these times (behind someone slow and building anxiety and anger)
as an exercise in patience….most of us, most of the time, don't have appts. that are critical…and if we are not actually in a big hurry why do we get sooooo upset if the LSV is going a bit slower that us? Good time to relax and work on patience….and to me the best response to 'the finger' is a big smile and a wave! Sorry if I sound like Pollyanna, but it seems to me to be much less aggravating.
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TLB50 . . . I think the first (and probably only) thing you need to think about is your own safety. While your golf cart may be legal and everything else on the road, it simply is not a road-safe vehicle under any circumstances. I think it's only a matter of time until something unfortunate happens and I certainly do not wish this for you.

Don't be a hero. Stay on the cart paths or drive a real car on the streets.
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Don't think anyone ever said it was illegal but being legal doesn't make it right, sane or safe. I've driven street legal carts many times and thoroughly enjoy going a little faster and being able to cross streets I can't in my golf cart and, yes, being in the middle of the road rather than right by the gutter. However, there is no way I would travel on the car portion on Morse, BV or El Camino (other than to get to the other side). It's not fair to cars that have a speed limit of 35 mph; it's not worth the ire evoked by my being in front of those faster cars and it just ain't safe. Just because something is legal doesn't make it the right, safe or sane thing to do.
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Don't think anyone ever said it was illegal but being legal doesn't make it right, sane or safe. I've driven street legal carts many times and thoroughly enjoy going a little faster and being able to cross streets I can't in my golf cart and, yes, being in the middle of the road rather than right by the gutter. However, there is no way I would travel on the car portion on Morse, BV or El Camino (other than to get to the other side). It's not fair to cars that have a speed limit of 35 mph; it's not worth the ire evoked by my being in front of those faster cars and it just ain't safe. Just because something is legal doesn't make it the right, safe or sane thing to do.
Very well said, redwitch. Especially the part highlighted.
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Old 05-31-2014, 08:38 PM
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You are NOT impeding traffic because here is another lane available for faster traffic. It is no different than a bicycle or slow scooter, there is not enough room for a car and a slower vehicle in the same lane on Morse, Stillwater, El Comino, or Buena Vista.
Share the road, it's the law!
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LSV are in their right to travel the roads. I suspect the same people exhibiting impatience with LSV are doing the same with cars they believe are going too slow. in other words the problem isn't the type vehicle. Further yet many of these drivers have little or no regard got golf carts merging from a diamond lane onto the road. A few days ago a small blue GM vehicle would have run me down in order to skirt in front of me, had I not been alert. This even when I gave ample mechanical and hand signals that I was merging.
Yesterday a cart cut off another cart on Morse Blvd by pulling left of this cart into the left lane and forcing the cart to the right and a car on Morse to the left. The point I am trying to male is that there are some very inconsiderate and impatience drivers here
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Old 05-31-2014, 09:03 PM
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I can't agree with the posts that advise the street legal cart owners to stick to the cart paths. Would you have the same advice for bicyclists, or scooters? The only difference is the size of the vehicle, and the LSV is actually larger.

In reading the OP's account, the one part that stands out to me is the admission that he moved into the left lane early in order to be certain he could make the desired left turn. This, to me, is the primary source of the conflict. The driver who came up behind likely felt he had a left lane thief in front. He certainly could have handled it better, but I understand the frustration. At this time of year there is not so much traffic that access to the left lane is difficult. If there is a car to your left, they will be going faster than the LSV so the lane will open up. Or the LSV can slow a bit to let traffic pass before moving left.

Whether anyone thinks it is right or safe or sane, the LSV operator has permission to operate on those roads. It is the responsibility of all other vehicles on the same road to respect that. And for the LSV operator to understand the potential difficulty his speed differential can cause.

No, I don't have a street legal.
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Interesting discussion, thanks.

If I had a street legal cart, would I be able to cross 27 at one of the lights at Morse or Bella Cruz? I mean, a person could walk across those intersections, or ride a bike, or walk their bike, or skateboard, or use a motorized wheelchair or boing boing along on a pogo stick.
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LSV are in their right to travel the roads. I suspect the same people exhibiting impatience with LSV are doing the same with cars they believe are going too slow. in other words the problem isn't the type vehicle. Further yet many of these drivers have little or no regard got golf carts merging from a diamond lane onto the road. A few days ago a small blue GM vehicle would have run me down in order to skirt in front of me, had I not been alert. This even when I gave ample mechanical and hand signals that I was merging.
Yesterday a cart cut off another cart on Morse Blvd by pulling left of this cart into the left lane and forcing the cart to the right and a car on Morse to the left. The point I am trying to male is that there are some very inconsiderate and impatience drivers here
Yes, LSV's have a legal right to travel the roads. Yes, there are "some very inconsiderate and impatience drivers here" (and I would add dangerous). That is why I feel it is unwise for LSV's to travel on the roads with 35MPH speed limits, especially when the MM paths are an option. They are very vulnerable.

A lot of LSV drivers must agree as I see very few on the subject roads.
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Has anyone thought of the 35 MPH speed limit really means 40 or 45 mph. 35MPH speed limit is the FASTEST you can go. Is there minimum speed limit posted, you know like on interstate or toll roads. I think not so anybody can drive 20 MPH in 35 mph speed limit.

the people that are inpatient will be inpatient if you going 40. majority don't drive 35 MPH on Morse, Stillwater, El Camino, or Buena Vista anyway. That the problem SPEEDER's.

What the Villages need are the automatic camera ticket devise. You know the one's that take the picture of license plates, records the speed, and send you nice HELLO in the mail. This would be wonderful money maker for the county and just might SLOW people down after few hundred dollar fines.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:27 AM
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I have lived here four years now and i have always been told that when on a street with no designated golf cart lane, a car and a golf cart are to be considered equal vehicles. Is this true?
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Just because something is legal doesn't make it the right, safe or sane thing to do.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:13 PM
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Thank You for your reply. I was having a chat with a man the other night and we were discussing this very subject. The man told me a car always has preference over a golf cart. When I disagreed with him, he started calling me profane names and said how wrong I was. I tried to defend my position but he just kept calling me names that I can not repeat here. Again Thank You.
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