[buggyone]

Shrimpy says, "It's better to own a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it."

Well, Shrimpy, do you think it was better that the lady ex-police officer had a gun in the house when she mentally snapped and shot her husband while he was taking a shower? This happened just about 2 years ago in The Villages. There was a several hour standoff before she surrendered. She is now in prison.

[Figmo Bohica]

Let's see buggyone, one shooting in the Villages since it has been established XXXX amount of years ago. There are more than that in New York City in one day and New York City/State have some of the strickest gun laws in the nation. Time to stop harping on the one shooting. No one will change your mind about guns, you are scared and will stay that way until you need someone to come protect you. Did you know that police officers have killed more innocent people in accidental shootings than CCW holders. Check the facts, get educated, I know that you believe in gun control, just change that to people control, just ask Stalin, Hitler and a few other of the dictators around the world how well gun control works for their citizens. Are you starting to get the picture yet? Just wondering.

[Longrider49]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Longrider,

I said I think it is ridiculous to carry a concealed weapon in The Villages. I, personally, think that a handgun at home is stupid but you can do that if you want.

Do you live in The Villages? If so, please tell me how you and your family are helpless victims and how is it that you would live in fear? This is the safest community you can imagine. Women walk safely at 5 a.m. around the streets.

The only violent crime I have heard of in the past 2 years was a lady who shot her husband in the shower. Retired police officers, both of them. Pistol in the house. Opportunity reared it's head when the woman snapped.

Figmo thinks we are very potential targets when the government entitlements are suspended for the surrounding towns. Ladydoc talks about having handguns for shooting rattlesnakes in New Mexico. Both are NOT reasons for handguns but having one in your home is your problem - not mine.

My message is that it is totally ridiculous to carry a concealed pistol in The Villages. If you feel good about having one at home - go ahead. No reason at all for carrying one when out in public in The Villages.

I have a home in TV and one up north. I travel a good bit. You are deluding yourself if you think you are always in a safe area. But perhaps the real issue for you is guns in general, you are opposed to them so you support arguments that say you are less safe in your home if you have a gun etc. etc. NRA has run a column for as long as I can remember (50 years plus) that give real world examples of those that have saved the lives of themselves and their families by use of a firearm. I know that nothing I say will convince you to change your mind so I won't bore you anymore except to remind you that it is my right. You may want to consider that without the second amendment there would be no other rights.

[villagegolfer]

Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica

Let's see buggyone, one shooting in the Villages since it has been established XXXX amount of years ago. There are more than that in New York City in one day and New York City/State have some of the strickest gun laws in the nation. Time to stop harping on the one shooting. No one will change your mind about guns, you are scared and will stay that way until you need someone to come protect you. Did you know that police officers have killed more innocent people in accidental shootings than CCW holders. Check the facts, get educated, I know that you believe in gun control, just change that to people control, just ask Stalin, Hitler and a few other of the dictators around the world how well gun control works for their citizens. Are you starting to get the picture yet? Just wondering.

Right on bro, the meek at heart are always against defense and protection until their skinny little necks are in jeopardy .
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[buggyone]

Figmo,

You are a former military man. Therefore, I quote Col. Sherman T. Potter, "Meadow Muffins".

Conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. You have never lived in a safer place than The Villages. You are not on the Mexican border anymore with drug smugglers and rattlesnakes all around you just itching to smoke or bite you.

Take a chill pill and learn how to relax in this wonderful environment without strapping on your Tex Western gear.

'Nuff said. I am done with this topic.

[GeorgeT]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Figmo,

You are a former military man. Therefore, I quote Col. Sherman T. Potter, "Meadow Muffins".

Conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. You have never lived in a safer place than The Villages. You are not on the Mexican border anymore with drug smugglers and rattlesnakes all around you just itching to smoke or bite you.

Take a chill pill and learn how to relax in this wonderful environment without strapping on your Tex Western gear.

'Nuff said. I am done with this topic.

I believe Vermont is a safer place than TV. I reiterate, there basically are no gun laws in Vermont. That's why it is safe. The bad guys have to assume that everybody has a gun. Anyway, I'm glad you're done with this topic because you're adding nothing but "Meadow Muffins" to it. buggygone!

[Fourpar]

Well put, George T

[villagegolfer]

[quote=buggyone;400413]Figmo,

You are a former military man. Therefore, I quote Col. Sherman T. Potter, "Meadow Muffins".

Conspiracy theorists are a dime a dozen. You have never lived in a safer place than The Villages. You are not on the Mexican border anymore with drug smugglers and rattlesnakes all around you just itching to smoke or bite you.

Take a chill pill and learn how to relax in this wonderful environment without strapping on your Tex Western gear.

'Nuff said. I am done with this topic.[/quote]
I wish.

[buggyone]

GeorgeT says he believes Vermont is a lot safer than The Villages. I challenge you, GeorgeT, to find a community in Vermont with a similar population to The Villages (approx. 65,000) with the same or lower violent crime rate according to FBI statistics.

Also, the reason I keep coming back to the female former police officer shooting her husband is that I do not know anymore recent violent crime in The Villages. If you know of any other, let me know.

I am not talking of Wildwood, Lady Lake, Fruitland Park, Leesburg, but in The Villages.

I also am not talking of keeping a handgun in your home. I am saying it is ridiculous to carry a concealed handgun while in The VIllages.

[CMANN]

Originally Posted by buggyone

To show how retarded the Florida concealed pistol permit is and how easy it is to obtain: A friend of ours in The Villages has her mom and dad living in The Villages, too. Her mom (85 years old) got her concealed pistol permit a few weeks ago so she is packing heat in public in The Villages. The dad (91 years old) has been confined to a wheelchair for many years. Even at home, he keeps a loaded pistol in the side pocket of the wheelchair. Both the mom and dad are proud of the fact they have a pistol within arms reach in every room in the house.

Once again, the usual persons that get hurt by a pistol at home are family members. It is your right but it is ridiculous to do. No one is welcome at my home if they are carrying a pistol.

once again you show your ignorance. What does someone's age have to do with whether they should prepare themselves. In order to get their Florida permits they had to meet certain requirements and undergo certain training. They had to show at least a minimum proficiency.

You would take the guns away that something happened you would probably look up reading your hands and say isn't that a shame.

I'm sure that nobody with any gun would want to visit you in the first place and if they did they wouldn't tell you they were carrying a gun.


A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

[CMANN]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Gun threads always get big response. If you don't want one don't buy one. But don't tell those that do that you are right and they are wrong. What makes you an expert? Did you read a few newspapers? I think golf is silly, but I'm wasting my time telling most Villagers that they shouldn't golf, and why should I. What the hell do I care if they play golf? What the hell do you care if I chose to protect myself and my wife.

"It's better to own a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it"

what makes him think he is an expert is that he is a progressive. Progressive believe that they know everything about everything that we should have. If they don't know about it or don't have an opinion about it we definitely shouldn't have it. If they do know about it and have an opinion about it than we definitely shouldn't have.

This may not make sense to you but I believe that it makes sense to them, progressives that is.

. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

[Figmo Bohica]

buggyone, to further educate you and inform you, TEXAS does not allow open carry. Can you believe that!!!!! Texas did for many years then changed their law to only allow concealed carry. There is a movement a foot to change it back to open carry but does not have a lot of political support so might not happen for a while. So I guess I can't strap on my Tex Western gear and take a chill pill, see I don't need one, but I would suggest that you take several.

Personally I don't like open carry. If you are not using the correct retention holster your firearm can be taken away from you. Just try taking a police officers pistol out of his holster, you are likely to remove his belt and pants before getting the weapon out of his holster. Besides, why would I want bad guys to know that I am armed. Best to just keep it secret, that is why its called concealed carry. Just my personal opinion, but where legal to carry open and if you decide you want to, its all right with me.

[GeorgeT]

Originally Posted by buggyone

GeorgeT says he believes Vermont is a lot safer than The Villages. I challenge you, GeorgeT, to find a community in Vermont with a similar population to The Villages (approx. 65,000) with the same or lower violent crime rate according to FBI statistics.

Also, the reason I keep coming back to the female former police officer shooting her husband is that I do not know anymore recent violent crime in The Villages. If you know of any other, let me know.

I am not talking of Wildwood, Lady Lake, Fruitland Park, Leesburg, but in The Villages.

I also am not talking of keeping a handgun in your home. I am saying it is ridiculous to carry a concealed handgun while in The VIllages.

I didn't say a lot safer I said safer. Oh wait, you said in a previous post that you were done with this subject. Is this from another buggygone?

[buggyone]

No, GeorgeT, it is the same buggyone. If you said that Vermont is "safer" than The Villages instead of "a lot safer", that is fine with me. I still challenge you to find a similar sized Vermont community (around 65,000) with the same or a lower FBI violent crime statistic than The Villages

Once again, I am not talking surrounding areas to The Villages.

Thank you.

[ladydoc]

Not that I suggest this is a offense that would justify a shooting (just in case anyone misunderstands this post) we recently had an incident on our block where someone went into a neighbor's yard and stole her brass nozzles and fittings. Why, who knows? They also tried to remove the electrical surge protector on the meter. That is not a good thing. This neighbor is not home all day, so we are not sure that made a difference.