[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Ksfirefighter

If you want to really create a change, go after the biggest users and polluters, like China!
They don’t really care about the environment. Just churning out cheap crap that nobody ever really needs.
If you want a change, stop buying from them and support those who are like minded. If nobody buys the crap they produce then production will fall and less pollution.

Wish granted! China's production has been dropping off lately because of the backup at US ports for unloading products. China won't make what it can't sell quickly. And US vehicle production and other line production has slowed down big-time because we depend on just-in-time delivery of PARTS. So, now we have just-in-time gotten out of time and way-behind-time and nobody gets their new Chevy or Ford. so sad! And that hurts China and hurts the US stock market. Which hurts the US economy and labor, in general.
....Don't know if it IS affecting Europe or not?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You moved into a golf course/golf cart community and you're surprised there are a lot of golf courses and golf carts?

I wish I could think of some way, just some thing you could do to make you happy...

Having ALL ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS and electric mowers would make me and our mother (mother earth) VERY happy. I am doing my part and getting BOTH! Now it is your turn to be nice to Mother! And my mower is a 20-inch push Kobalt that is quiet as a"Dream Machine". She pushes easily and never refuses me (to start). I named her ....Ginger Peachy! And she has long sharp nails.....I mean blade. What more can a tool-man desire?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

I did some quick searching and found that and there are an estimated 989 million head of cattle in the world and 7.8 billion humans. So who do you think is generating the most methane from farts. A human on the average passes gas 10 to 18 times a day, that's a lot of gas.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by zendog3

Wow! I was aware there were still people who disagreed that global climate change was a fact and that people were the primary cause, but I am amazed by the passion of some readers.

Your opinion was common in the '70s, but the consensus among scientists studying climate has moved. Perhaps you should take another look at the science.

It is not reasonable to expect any reader of this list to read all the primary science. Instead, we must select our sources and evaluate not the scientific research but the authority of the source. Bush, Gore, Trump, Hannity, Biden, etc., are not the people we should trust in matters where there is a scientific answer. Because the stakes are so high, we need to consider the words and writings of scientists researching this field.

I refer you to Wikipedia for a summary, where a long and meticulously documented article is waiting.

Surveys of scientists' views on climate change - Wikipedia

People violently opposed to the idea of global warming will not read an article that attacks their fundamental beliefs. People skeptical may look at the charts and graphs. However, anyone with faith in science who reads the report can not help but be persuaded by the consensus statement quoted here:

Academic studies of scientific agreement on human-caused global warming among climate experts (2010–2019) reflect that the level of consensus correlates with expertise in climate science.[302][303]
There is an overwhelming scientific consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused mainly by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases, with 90–100% (depending on the exact question, timing and sampling methodology) of publishing climate scientists agreeing.[304] The consensus has grown to 100% among research scientists on anthropogenic global warming as of 2019.[305] No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view.[306] Consensus has further developed that some form of action should be taken to protect people against the impacts of climate change, and national science academies have called on world leaders to cut global emissions.[307]

The Wikipedia article is backed with pages and pages of citations to original scientific papers.

Most of us will die in a world where the earth's temperature is still rising and climate catastrophe is growing. It is for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren that we need to act now.

People "violently" opposed?

Gimme a break...

[The Caretaker]

Maybe California would be a better place for you to retire.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I did NOT know that ........thank you........I was believing the cow-exit-gas theory. Now I will put my dunce cap on and sit in a corner and meditate on why it is known that the Atlantic ocean is rising and temperature is rising and 97% of all scientists believe that the rise is man-made!

More lies... 97% of scientists DO NOT agree about climate change...

Fact Checking The Claim Of 97% Consensus On Anthropogenic Climate Change

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Does your house run on solar panels?

Or is he one of those "Do as I say, not as I do" kinda guys?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Good one! That made me laugh - a good hearty laugh, thanks!

Same can be said for most of your posts! Thanks!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Having ALL ELECTRIC GOLF CARTS and electric mowers would make me and our mother (mother earth) VERY happy. I am doing my part and getting BOTH! Now it is your turn to be nice to Mother! And my mower is a 20-inch push Kobalt that is quiet as a"Dream Machine". She pushes easily and never refuses me (to start). I named her ....Ginger Peachy! And she has long sharp nails.....I mean blade. What more can a tool-man desire?

Yes, let's have solar Golf Carts and Lawn mowers! Because, you know, electricity is free and doesn't cause any pollution!

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Oh, also even if I use 0.00 KW in a month, I still need to pay SECO $1 per day. What a scam.

Really? so who pays for your electricity delivery when the sun and wind and battery doesn't have enough?
True that at a certain point, the legacy electrical grid becomes the backup system, but everyone readily admits that backup systems are expensive. So yes, you have pay towards the maintenance of the poles and wires for the delivery of legacy electricity, whehter you use it or not. . . yes, you have to pay to play and have access when you need it. You are not entitled for free delivery because you bought solar panels, unless you opt for a gas generator instead of mass produced and distributed energy.

[Lil GTO]

Thank you! Thank you Thank you Thank you.

We could all start ringing bikes and walking quit using fossil fuels all together ground every airplane tomorrow globally and not have enough affect on the weather to stop or even remotely slow down what makes our planet work.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Please tell me that is a tongue in cheek joke, please. No one, perhaps with the exception of Al Gore, should believe any of this "global warming" garbage that is being shoved down our throats, although PT Barnum was right when he said that there is one born every minute. I have explained at least a dozen times that we have been in an ice age for 4+ million years with cyclical periods of glaciation and thaws (and therefore periods of warming and cooling). We have been through both the warming and cooling limbs of this cycle at least 2 dozen times in that period and 2 things are true-----
1) we are still here
2) It HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUV'S OR ANY OTHER ACTIVITY OF MAN

Our kids and grandkids?????? Not likely, although our descendants in about 15,000 years will live at the peak of the warming cycle and our coastal cities will be under 100 feet of water. But don't break out the sunscreen and swim trunks just yet, because 30,000 years after that, NY City will again be under 2 miles of ice.

But, if anyone doesn't understand the simple science behind paleoclimatology, then by all means let's spend 100 trillion dollars over the next 40 years to combat "global warming" What a joke!

PS: This is not to denigrate solar power---it is a good thing and there are plenty of reasons to utilize it. However "global warming" is NOT one of them

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by maxfl1

And, surely, you have a phd in the area. Would you like to hear from an MIT scientist on the subject. Go debate him:
2018 Annual GWPF Lecture - Prof Richard Lindzen - Global Warming For The Two Cultures - YouTube
Learn something.

Thank you for the link. I enjoyed the lecture. He is very knowledgable, has a lot of bona-fides to back up his opinions, and I learned a few things from listening to him.
I hope he's correct because I don't think the climate-changers can ever win this battle. If the climate-changers are correct in their most pessimistic predictions, then mankind is in for a lot of suffering in the not-too-distant future.
I did a little background checking and there are a few points that may put a dent in his credibility.
He has received money from the fossil fuel industry to present his message.
The group he was lecturing to, the GWPF (Global Warming Policy Foundation) is essentially a lobbying group for the fossil fuel industry. They have repeatedly and steadfastly refused to identify their sources of funding.

In the lecture he bemoans the "politicization" of the climatology science, yet he eventually voices repeatedly, his own political slant.

So once again we are faced with a politicized agenda, purporting to be unbiased science. But is it? I don't think it is. It may be correct, or it may be incorrect in it's conclusions, but it is most definitely not unbiased.
We all have filters. We all too easily dismiss the science that doesn't jibe with our beliefs, and declare it "liberal" or "radical right wing". We choose to believe what we hear on CNN or FOX depending upon our beliefs going in, not swayed by the verbiage. We can dismiss the verbiage easily because it does not align with our hard-wired belief system.

This guy is no different. If you are a climate change denier then he makes great sense. If you are a believer in climate change then you can point to other equally qualified scientists who disagree with his conclusions, and say "see? I was right!"

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I wish that you would run for local politics. But, you are too idealistic about TV Land. It is set up to make $$$$ and not for social good! It is one of the most backward places that I have ever lived in! Like dark-ages backward. Sit down in a foldup chair in ANY residential TV Land street with pretty much Golf Car traffic. Wait until a Golf Car goes past you for about 60 feet. Then start taking deep breaths and use your nose. Most are gas Golf Cars and unless brand new will smell like you poured gasoline on your own shirt! They STINK, STINK, STINK, AND MORE STINK. The drivers are moving into fresh air so they do NOT realize what a terrible thing they are doing to TV Landers and even the upper atmosphere. Notice that when a regular car or small truck goes by they don't stink sometimes NOT at all. And what are the health effects on an older population, some with allergies, asthma, or other serious problems?

But GOLF is KING in TV land. So, no one BETTER say a bad word about the polluting machines called golf cars. And put the screws to the environment even though these small gas machines are polluting more than the larger smog control devices protected large vehicles. And then there is the LAWN MOWER polluting MACHINES BURNING gasoline. And the 2-STROKE 120 DB noise blasting leaf blowers - do THEY get a pass. I know that there are a bizzillion OIL lobbyists pushing for more gas usage - but this is BEYOND ridiculous!

So, if they can't fix what is right in front of their nose? - How can I expect them to fix or be in ANY way helpful in combating global warming. Not going to happen in this state - in this lifetime. They might talk some words about getting with a GREEN program. But, the real GREEN is what will be priority numero uno! So good luck and when you tire of changing those minds - please join MY club for the jousting of windmills!

You sure sound like a politician...

[DaleDivine]

[QUOTE=Win1894;2014180]The premise that solar is the savior of the planet is irritatingly ignorant. Do the physics. It's not green and it's not renewable. You've been sold a bill of goods. First, where do you think most PV cells come from - China. Second, what are you going to do for power when the sun don't shine or at night? Batteries you say - not possible. The battery capacity would have to be so massive it would shift the Earth's orbit.

UMMMM, where would this extra weight come from if it's not already on/in the earth...

[jswirs]

Here we have "some" scientist declaring that humans are responsible for global warming, and those who disagree refuse to "follow (that) science", and are fee to follow the science they believe is correct.
However, regarding virology, we have "some" scientist that disagree with the vaccine for Covid, but those who agree to "follow (that) science" are are demonized.

Yes, I know there are differences in this analogy, but to some degree the correlation sill exist. It's almost humorous to watch folks agree with whatever science happens to fit well with their own particular agenda.