[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

All of you complaining about servers not wearing masks and possibly putting you in jeopardy, have you thought about the servers??? You aren't wearing your mask when you order or eat your meal are you? You are putting the server in the same jeopardy as you claim they put in by them not wearing a mask. OK, OK I got it, you are more important than the servers.

Excellent point!

I find it hypocritical of people who have no issues dining at a restaurant, of course not wearing masks, yet demand the entire restaurant staff wear masks.

[Chatbrat]

Will try eating out after phase 3 or later, don't want anything on my tombstone, to the tune of "here lies man who had to have a martini @ his favorite bar--he died from covid, not the martini"

[stan the man]

Viva la Arnold Palmer ... love their outlook ...

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by photo1902

Excellent point!

I find it hypocritical of people who have no issues dining at a restaurant, of course not wearing masks, yet demand the entire restaurant staff wear masks.

I think that you would find that most of the people complaining about the irresponsible attitude of Arnold Palmer management do wear masks when they go to a restaurant, taking them off, course, while eating. No one claims that masks are 100% effective in stopping the spread. They clearly are effective in reducing it.

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell

50 % of those cover deaths, are NOT cover deaths. Stop watching CNN. Open up this country or we will not have a country.

Not only that, we will never know the true mortality rate due to the people who were never tested and never needed hospitalization. Hundreds of thousands have had it and didn't know it.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Advogado

I think that you would find that most of the people complaining about the irresponsible attitude of Arnold Palmer management do you wear masks when they go to a restaurant, taking them off, course, while eating. No one claims that masks are 100% effective in stopping the spread. They clearly are effective in reducing it.

How does that change the fact that the customer is jeopardizing the server's health when they take their mask off when they eat but have no concern for the server's health?

[fdpaq0580]

Mask or no mask? "I'm not sick so I don't need a mask." The debate will go on.
But, I wonder if the name "Mary Mallon" rings a bell? "Typhoid Mary" was an asymptomatic carrier that was responsible for many deaths although claiming she was not sick. She had to be forcibly quarantined, twice, for a total of 26 years.
I wonder just how many "Typhoid Mary's" there are running around with no clue or conscience.
I'm not hiding under my bed, but I will take reasonable precautions, as I see fit, in each situation I encounter and will adjust as information and understanding of this situation improves.
We all want this over, but it is not over yet.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by pattytracey

No masks is good; healthy people don’t need masks

Healthy people wear masks; that's what keeps them healthy!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Healthy people wear masks; that's what keeps them healthy!

Sorry, BF, but the mask doesn't keep YOU healthy. But it may keep those around you from getting the virus, IF you are indoors, and IF you are closer than 6 feet and IF you are coughing/sneezing or spitting your letter "P"'s, and IF you carry the virus in the first place, and IF you can spout out enough of an inoculum that once transferred can infect another person.
A lot of "IF"s. However I wear a mask indoors because 1) overall the use of masks decreases the spread of the virus---not on an individual basis, but when applied to a large population and 2) it makes others feel better.
BTW, you can wait for the viral threat to regress before you pay me the lobster YOU OWE ME!(for 4 years now)

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

How does that change the fact that the customer is jeopardizing the server's health when they take their mask off when they eat but have no concern for the server's health?

Don't be ridiculous. Nobody says masks are 100% effective. More importantly, when I have my mask off in a restaurant, the server is almost always more than 6' away from me.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

How does that change the fact that the customer is jeopardizing the server's health when they take their mask off when they eat but have no concern for the server's health?

Your point is correct but then you are making the point for keeping the restaurants closed which is NOT good. The mask on the server protects him somewhat (better than nothing) from the diner and also protects the diner so it's a 75% savings and keeps the place, er, economy open or the other choice where everyone loses is just shut it down. Why have BOTH not wearing it and increase chances for both people of illness. Obviously you can't put food in your mouth with a mask on and you can't do business with diners eating with masks on but you can show concern for your customers (without who you wouldn't be opened) and wear a mask. Always err for the more positive outcome (one person with mask) rather then no one.

So bottom line, Yea, have it your way and have both not wear them. It's only "fair" that both people might just possibly get sick.

[Advogado]

In response to the posters who brag about how they go to the Arnold Palmer restaurant (and other restaurants where the servers are maskless) and refuse to wear masks themselves:

While masks provide the wearer some degree of protection (depending on the type of mask), their main function is to minimize the chance that the wearer infects others. Thus, when you go to the Arnold Palmer restaurant, you are running a significant risk of getting infected from a maskless waiter, who circulates through the restaurant, coming in close contact with hundreds of people a day. You say that is your own business, and a lot of people would agree with you. They might even feel that, if you contract COVID-19 by foolishly patronizing such a restaurant, you got the comeuppance that you deserve.

However, when you go to Arnold Palmer's without a mask, don't you care about the servers and fellow patrons that YOU may be infecting and the other people that they may be reinfecting-- some of whom may well die as a result of your don't-give-a-damn -about-other-people attitude?

Have you ever heard of civic responsibility or just plain human decency?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Advogado

I think that you would find that most of the people complaining about the irresponsible attitude of Arnold Palmer management do wear masks when they go to a restaurant, taking them off, course, while eating. No one claims that masks are 100% effective in stopping the spread. They clearly are effective in reducing it.

Today a medical expert in a TV interview stated that IF only 60% of the people wore their masks, then CV would be controlled in ONLY 2 weeks. They said that is a "golden ticket" , but people are NOT reaching for it.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Advogado

Don't be ridiculous. Nobody says masks are 100% effective. More importantly, when I have my mask off in a restaurant, the server is almost always more than 6' away from me.

A medical expert, in a TV interview, stated that IF 60% of the people wore their masks, then in ONLY 2 weeks the CV would be controlled. That was called a "golden ticket", but people are NOT reaching for it.

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

A medical expert, in a TV interview, stated that IF 60% of the people wore their masks, then in ONLY 2 weeks the CV would be controlled. That was called a "golden ticket", but people are NOT reaching for it.

The "medical experts" from W.H.O. told the world it was NOT spread with human to human contact...