[walterray1]

Originally Posted by walterray1

On and on it goes. Two sides to this debate and cant agree. How are we going to agree on the bigger things happening?

Can we at least agree to get rid of the earwax ads on this site?

[Red Rose]

I would complain to the manager. In such close quarters the employee should be required to wear a mask.

[Doro22]

Thank you, Gracie for your informed reply.

[Kgcetm]

You should probably play somewhere else. Unless there is a posted policy that everyone must wear a mask then everyone doesn't have to wear a mask. There is no law. So, if there is no policy and you don't like the fact that they do not wear masks, then play somewhere else.

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Did you actually read the article you cited????? It dealt exclusively with different kinds of masks preventing the spread of COVID to others, nothing about any protective value to the wearer. Some masks MAY help protect the wearer in SPECIFIC situations. (driving alone in your car is not one of them)

Have you read Dr Pierre Kory's article on Masks? It's detailed and discusses some of the recent mask studies that have come out. It's sort of a follow up from his July Op Ed that was published in USA Today.

I like how he boils it down to the 4 Ds. Density, Duration, Dimensions, Draft. Violate any of those and unless it's an N95, you can get sick.

Masks! – Clearing Up the Confusion | FLCCC | Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

I’ve played and paid at the Tierra del Sol many times and occasionally the staff person behind the counter does not have a mask on but hanging from his ear. Maybe he scratched his nose and forgot to put it back on, but then again if your wearing a mask your chances of getting infected are extremely minimal not to mention the fact that when you pay for the round you are about three feet away from the staff person at a minimum. The same poster who started this thread I would bet doesn’t play with a mask on and doesn’t maintain a minimum of six feet from other players in his group at all times. When all this is over and under control you’ll start to see validated studies that will refute some of the opinions, and that’s what they are, of many professional and non professional individuals.

This is a very thoughtful post and I agree with most of it, not that you OR many people care what I think. I am a retired Preschool teacher who then became a Reebok rep for several years. I am NOT a medically educated person. We have a daughter born with a congenital issue that made her hospitalized many times and made me very respectful of legitimate medicine . I am a firm believer in finding an excellent physician and taking her/his advice.

I suspect that we will, as you say, find out after the fact, a lot of things about this damned virus. How exactly it is spread, why some people get sicker or die and others have few symptom etc.

But I am STILL an annoying old woman. Six feet (not three) is social distance and if you are old and catch Covid-19 you are still in far more danger than the kids in school. It is better to be safe than sorry. We are near the end of this pandemic. Get the vaccine as soon as you can everybody. I so enjoy this Forum.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

Ok everybody, don't worry since the guy won't sneeze or cough and its only a concern if it is on you. It doesn't matter if its a small room. He will only be around a few hundred people a day. Nothing here.

Indoors are 15 times more dangerous than outdoors. And no one except God knows when someone is about to sneeze and maybe his sneeze happened 2 minutes before you walked in - what then? With the NEW strain of CV around and the helicopters taking patients from The Village hospitals at an increasing rate, now is the time for MORE caution, not less.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Have you read Dr Pierre Kory's article on Masks? It's detailed and discusses some of the recent mask studies that have come out. It's sort of a follow up from his July Op Ed that was published in USA Today.

I like how he boils it down to the 4 Ds. Density, Duration, Dimensions, Draft. Violate any of those and unless it's an N95, you can get sick.

Masks! – Clearing Up the Confusion | FLCCC | Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance

You're preaching to the choir!

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You're preaching to the choir!

I know, but just pointing out that you're right and that you're in good company .

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Malsua

I know, but just pointing out that you're right and that you're in good company .

Of course we're both right, but also in the minority, or so it seems. The mask worshippers are quite a bit more vocal. That being said, I would still wear a mask in the pro shop, since social distancing might not be possible

[DougF]

My wife and I were at Tierra del Sol last Sunday, and it was true. There was a staff member walking around inside without a mask on. And he went outside and then came back inside again, still without a mask. From the look of it, I doubt that he forgot to put it on. This should not be allowed - especially by facilities that are owned and operated by The Villages. Management should step in and do something about it.

And to all those who think masks are not effective. Seriously? After all the evidence that's been provided?

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You're preaching to the choir!

Originally Posted by DougF

My wife and I were at Tierra del Sol last Sunday, and it was true. There was a staff member walking around inside without a mask on. And he went outside and then came back inside again, still without a mask. From the look of it, I doubt that he forgot to put it on. This should not be allowed - especially by facilities that are owned and operated by The Villages. Management should step in and do something about it.

And to all those who think masks are not effective. Seriously? After all the evidence that's been provided?

As the poster, that was my point exactly since management is the one requesting masks and this wasn't the first time this same individual violated his own policy. This was pointed out to Golf the Villages previously apparently it wasn't effective. Small room with out effective ventilation with hundreds of patrons is probably part of reason that The Villages Health and Daily Sun has been having an increased awareness campaign.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Neither is Fauci. He is a nut case who has been wrong about every single thing.

I completely disagree with you. He had lack of information at the beginning but he is a very intelligent person who has valid information about this Pandemic, and is dispensing it ethically. He knows as much as anyone could have who is in the midst of an unprecedented event that is accruing information as it goes along. Dr. Fauci is NOT a "nut case" and has not been influenced by ANYTHING but scientific information. There is so much hatred and misinformation and conspiracy theories out there. I think Anthony Fauci is a person who has proved himself in this job for many years.

[Love2Swim]

Contact John Rohan and let him know. Its unconscionable that people aren't smart enough to wear masks when we are an endangered age group in a pandemic. Golf is one of the few activities people can enjoy relatively safely these days. Let's not have a few uncaring people ruin it for others.

John Rohan, Director of Recreation and Parks
984 Old Mill Run | The Villages, Florida 32162
Direct: 352.674.1800| Fax: 352.674.1805
John.Rohan@DistrictGov.org | Village Community Development Districts

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Contact John Rohan and let him know. Its unconscionable that people aren't smart enough to wear masks when we are an endangered age group in a pandemic. Golf is one of the few activities people can enjoy relatively safely these days. Let's not have a few uncaring people ruin it for others.

John Rohan, Director of Recreation and Parks
984 Old Mill Run | The Villages, Florida 32162
Direct: 352.674.1800| Fax: 352.674.1805
John.Rohan@DistrictGov.org | Village Community Development Districts

He has nothing to do with championship courses.