[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Berferful

After two lifestyle visits, my wife and I (and mini schnauzer) will be renting Jan-Mar somewhere in Collier. Looking forward to it, but reading some of the threads, it seems like renters and snowbirds are not welcome by some.

Unwelcome by some. Enthusiastically welcomed by most. Don't let a sprinkling of crochety old geezers form your opinions of The Villages.

[Daxdog]

Time for the restaurants to bring out the snow bird menus, everything just went up 25%. Well maybe they will start taking care of the landscaping.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

..some people from UPSTATE New York (why do they always add UPSTATE when identifying where they come from?)...

Driving through Arkansas with my parents back in the late 70s(?) our NY license plates drew some odd and less-than-friendly looks. This was back when the Federal Govt was going to bail out NYC and not everyone was happy with the idea. The attitude changed when we explained that we were from the "other" NY, the part that didn't have the Empire State Building or Statue of Liberty, and that we weren't happy about it either. That's when I started adding "Upstate."

It also helped when I moved to Md and explained that I had never seen NYC and was actually closer to it in Md than where I grew up.

It seems there are many people who are unaware that vast majority of NY State sits between NYC and Canada.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

While we full-timers don't enjoy the added traffic, the businesses love you. So, yes, you are important. Welcome home!
😀

You must be because us full timers have to deal with closures and aeration of the greens. It's been impossible to putt all summer. I don't know why they feel greens have to be punched full of holes multiple times isn't once enough. Sucks to be us lol

[Pamela1130]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Bingo.

The contributions in TOTV from the anti-snowbird types are as predictable as the seasons. Sept. Oct. is the start, rising to a crescendo around the end of December, then slowly petering out on towards spring. But I doubt that their numbers are really anything more than minuscule. A few disgruntled people can make a lot of noise.

Sure, it gets more crowded here than in the summer. Sure, there are snowbirds who don't really understand the rules of golf cart usage. And yes. Tee times can become complicated. But that is minor, really. For my part I enjoy golfing during high snowbird season because of all the interesting people you meet. A farmer and his wife from Iowa...a Canadian couple this past March who were not shy about sharing their disgust with how things are run up there in The Great North...a 96-year-old guy who still swung a mean club and who got a hole-in-one during our round (it WAS El Santiago, but still impressive)...several people from Baaaaaahston who were the exact opposite of what we were told to expect from New Englanders...some people from UPSTATE New York (why do they always add UPSTATE when identifying where they come from?)...and so on. Overwhelmingly good people. A couple of toads too, but you'll find toads here pretty much year round. Snowbirds give a lift and an added positive dimension to TV that just isn't there in the summer.

They say Up State because people always ask because NYC and Upstate NY are two completely different places. Everything north of NYC is called upstate, lol. I have a son who lived in NYC and now lives in Upstate. I live in Mass and when people ask me where he lives and I say NY the next question is always, NYC or Upstate. It is strange, I agree. But that's why.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Bingo.

...some people from UPSTATE New York (why do they always add UPSTATE when identifying where they come from?)...and so on. .

We add "Upstate " because to simply say "New York" is an incomplete answer. New York could mean "New York City" which is a completely different world than "Upstate". Upstate is very rural, very green, punctuated with many fascinating and beautiful natural geographic features, such as gorges, waterfalls, rivers, marshes, lakes etc.
NYC is mostly concrete and is densely populated with skyscrapers and high-rises.

Attitudes tend to be markedly different between the two areas, and generally political affiliations tend to be more "Red" than "Blue" upstate, compared to NYC.

I love visiting NYC, but it's a completely different universe than where I live in Upstate NY.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by Laker14

We add "Upstate " because to simply say "New York" is an incomplete answer. New York could mean "New York City" which is a completely different world than "Upstate". Upstate is very rural, very green, punctuated with many fascinating and beautiful natural geographic features, such as gorges, waterfalls, rivers, marshes, lakes etc.
NYC is mostly concrete and is densely populated with skyscrapers and high-rises.

Attitudes tend to be markedly different between the two areas, and generally political affiliations tend to be more "Red" than "Blue" upstate, compared to NYC.

I love visiting NYC, but it's a completely different universe than where I live in Upstate NY.

Interesting take on the issue. Very similar to people who say they went to college at "Berkeley" as opposed to those who say they went to "Cal." If you identified the school as "Cal" you are probably conservative. If you identified it as "Berkeley" you are referencing back romantically to its liberal protest history.

Very different also if you are from "L.A." versus being from "So Cal." While not such a political bifurcation, more of an income or urban vs suburban reflection of self-identity.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Laker14

We add "Upstate " because to simply say "New York" is an incomplete answer. New York could mean "New York City" which is a completely different world than "Upstate". Upstate is very rural, very green, punctuated with many fascinating and beautiful natural geographic features, such as gorges, waterfalls, rivers, marshes, lakes etc.
NYC is mostly concrete and is densely populated with skyscrapers and high-rises.

Attitudes tend to be markedly different between the two areas, and generally political affiliations tend to be more "Red" than "Blue" upstate, compared to NYC.

I love visiting NYC, but it's a completely different universe than where I live in Upstate NY.

Final votes should be determined based on acreage.

[Beyond The Wall]

Don’t forget the TAXES and Fees we pay help keeping living affordable!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Berferful

After two lifestyle visits, my wife and I (and mini schnauzer) will be renting Jan-Mar somewhere in Collier. Looking forward to it, but reading some of the threads, it seems like renters and snowbirds are not welcome by some.

Dont worry takes all kinds and not that many of that kind

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Driving through Arkansas with my parents back in the late 70s(?) our NY license plates drew some odd and less-than-friendly looks. This was back when the Federal Govt was going to bail out NYC and not everyone was happy with the idea. The attitude changed when we explained that we were from the "other" NY, the part that didn't have the Empire State Building or Statue of Liberty, and that we weren't happy about it either. That's when I started adding "Upstate."

It also helped when I moved to Md and explained that I had never seen NYC and was actually closer to it in Md than where I grew up.

It seems there are many people who are unaware that vast majority of NY State sits between NYC and Canada.

As a former NYer always wondered why NY was not two states. Than again California seems about the same between north and south

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Laker14

We add "Upstate " because to simply say "New York" is an incomplete answer. New York could mean "New York City" which is a completely different world than "Upstate". Upstate is very rural, very green, punctuated with many fascinating and beautiful natural geographic features, such as gorges, waterfalls, rivers, marshes, lakes etc.
NYC is mostly concrete and is densely populated with skyscrapers and high-rises.

Attitudes tend to be markedly different between the two areas, and generally political affiliations tend to be more "Red" than "Blue" upstate, compared to NYC.

I love visiting NYC, but it's a completely different universe than where I live in Upstate NY.

Totally get that, upstate New York is beautiful and we enjoy visiting there. NYC on the other hand, work forced me there often but once I retired I vowed to never go back there again. I say we are from the Berkshires in Western Massachusetts, because otherwise people assume you are from the Boston area. Two entirety different places and lifestyles. We only go to Boston for two reasons, to visit our daughter or to get some of the best healthcare available anywhere in the world.

[DonnaNi4os]

I think sweatshirt was meant and spellcheck intervened

[DaleDivine]

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

I think sweatshirt was meant and spellcheck intervened

Ohhhh noooo, another person read the OP's post and then replied without reading all of the posts..

[DaleDivine]

If you think restaurant service is bad now because of lack of staff, bad chefs, and rude management, just wait until next month...