[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by mysunshine1948

I am new to The Villages and was happy to see that it is well kept and seemed to be clean. However, being a walker, I have noticed a lot of trash along the roadways and in the grass next to the roads and golf cart roads. I counted hundreds of cigarette butts in a short distance, along with empty water bottles and smashed pop cans, among other things.
This is disappointing. I have also noticed very unfriendly workers in restaurants. I am wondering if moving here was a bad idea!

SO......welcome to the forum. Tell us about you, snookums, other than your remarkable trait of starting a conversation with strangers.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by jgm3279

My postal station is littered with cigarette butts in front on the ground when there are SEVERAL trash bins with tops to leave their butts.....don't understand.

My postal station is six years old and we only have one trash bin and no cigarette butts or any thrash. Bogie asked yesterday, what postal station? I'm curious to know also.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by John_W

My postal station is six years old and we only have one trash bin and no cigarette butts or any thrash. Bogie asked yesterday, what postal station? I'm curious to know also.

I would guess one of the newer ones where construction workers frequently visit. There are also lawn trucks with trailers that park at some and chit-chat while throwing butts out of windows

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Allegiance

I believe there is one more tribe, a tribe of trolls that have a vested interest in saying negative untruths about the villages. Perhaps they own or are affliated with a competing community. The very occasional bottle or can I have seen on golf cart paths are likely ones that have fallen from moving golf carts and it's clear they have been on the path a short time. I dispise cigarette butts, occasionally see some, and think those people should be ticketed. The villages are super clean, especially considering it's not actually a gated community.

To the OP, congratulations on your 1st post. In what community do you actually live?

Allegiance: The trolls you referenced from outside the village are not a village tribe. As to cigarette butts I find them in front of my home and believe some resident walking feels my yard is his/her ashtray.

We maintain our home in a manner that it would always be ready for an open house should we desire to sell it. so any kind of trash bothers me.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by HimandMe

Oh my, there are more than three probably as many as there are people including those who are deficit detectives....always looking for something out of place to point out to others. What you look for, you will find....birds and sunshine or the guy scratching his butt.

HimanandMe: And you better thank your lucky stars because those are the type of people that call the cops when a prowler is about or community watch
when there is a utility problem etc and yes those they see poorly kept homes etc. If people didn't complain we still be flying Britians flag. heck we still be living in caves. count your blessings

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by outlaw

You have broken a couple of posting rules. It is your first post. Therefore, according to the unwritten hierarchy rule, you have no standing and you should not post anything in the least bit critical of anything related to TV. Period. Even if you had 500 posts, you have offended (no, outraged) the koolaid drinkers that bristle at any comment critical of TV fairyland. It really doesn't matter if your comment is true. It will still be dismissed by some as chronic complaining, or having an ulterior motive, or untrue. Yes, your buyers remorse may be setting in. But give it a little more time. After you get used to the crowds, the long lines, the rude golf cart drivers, the entitled cyclists, the clueless roundabout drivers, the hidden dump smell, the frequent sinkholes, the seat savers (they are all non-TVers by the way), the lack of easily accessible healthcare, I think you will decide TV is a nice place.

outlaw: There are people here who confuse disagreement with disloyalty. Say anything less than TV and the Developer represent perfection and Even pointing to God's imperfections gets a pass..but TV. Its just plain silly

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

You forgot a fourth tribe. Those who see little imperfections and blow them way out of proportion.

I remember threads about how the historic district was falling apart and was full of unkempt, dilapidated, abandoned homes. The fact is that there are a few of those homes here, but for the most part, the homes are very well kept.

I've seen countless other threads about various horrible wide spread conditions only to find that it's a small issue blown way out of proportion.

I'm not a shill for the developer, but I think that overall, they've done a great job. No place is perfect but this is as good as any place I've ever been.

I'm not saying that this is the case with the OP. I'm sure that she walks in an area that is littered but, from my observations, places like that are few and far between and usually temporary.

Doc: I agree but we also have the other extreme, those who cannot tolerate any reference to imperfections and view it has an assault against TV and the Developer. I feel no compulsion to defend either. My first post pointed out the three tribes because as sure as night follows day the three tribes would be aroused . There is more trash found now than when I first moved here and my statement was qualified by explaining we have had an increase in population so it would follow. Perhaps many would prefer that I say TV is the most beautiful and fun filled venue on earth that is as worthy as if God developed himself. Geezzz

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by rubicon

outlaw: There are people here who confuse disagreement with disloyalty. Say anything less than TV and the Developer represent perfection and Even pointing to God's imperfections gets a pass..but TV. Its just plain silly

Beach Boys, 1965 "Be True to Your School"

[coffeebean]

I've noticed every time there is a lot of wind, many palm fronds come down everywhere. I take note of how long it takes for the clean up crew to pick up all those fronds from everywhere. Within three days, this lovely community looks pristine again and all the downed debris from the trees is gone. I have to hand it to the landscape crews to do a fine job keeping our community so lovely.

I also notice if a wayward palm frond falls from a tree in the roadway at any time, not necessarily from wind, the frond is usually gone by the time I pass by again. They really stay on top of keeping our community clean.

As for cigarette butts......who smokes anymore? Certainly not the majority of seniors who live here. Wonder who is throwing out cigarette butts on the roadway and paths?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Doc: I agree but we also have the other extreme, those who cannot tolerate any reference to imperfections and view it has an assault against TV and the Developer. I feel no compulsion to defend either. My first post pointed out the three tribes because as sure as night follows day the three tribes would be aroused . There is more trash found now than when I first moved here and my statement was qualified by explaining we have had an increase in population so it would follow. Perhaps many would prefer that I say TV is the most beautiful and fun filled venue on earth that is as worthy as if God developed himself. Geezzz

Wait. Are you saying God is not the developer?!?!?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Wait. Are you saying God is not the developer?!?!?

No, but there are those who think he is a close relative

[Defined]

Don't let a few bad apple spoil the bushel. Unfriendly folks may have just been a bad day for them. As far as the trash I have noticed over the years during high season it does increase. Cigarette Butts a pet peeve of mine, I do yell at those I see flicking them out of their golf carts, car windows or just dropping them as they walk. The world is NOT their ash tray!

[Walter123]

Originally Posted by leftyf

I think filter cigarettes should be banned. Unfiltered cigarettes decompose a lot faster.

So do the people that smoke them!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Walter123

So do the people that smoke them!

Like!

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Walter123

Smacking children is a terrible thing to do. It's called child abuse. For those of you that grew up in households like that, and I am one of them, know that it causes more damage than good. Very sore subject for me and it shouldn't be talked about so lightly. I know you didn't mean anything by it, but still.....

Smacking a child is child abuse? Are you serious? Beating a child sure, but smacking? That's what's wrong with kids today, they don't get their butt whipped when they do something wrong. A good percentage of Villagers probably grew up in the era of getting spankings whereas their grandchildren are in the era where no one gets a butt whipping and everyone gets a participation trophy.