[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I’m pretty sure the land the dumpster sits on is owned by either the the District which collects my amenity fee to run activities at the center or the District which collects my maintenance fee to take care of the facilities. Either way, my neighbors and I fund trash collection at those facilities.

As for what the INTENDED use of the postal station cans - there was a long thread on here a year or so ago about how they were NOT intended for junk mail.

Your first paragraph may be true....so what’s your point?
By doing so...does that give you the right to throw household trash into those containers...as stated herein?

Your second sentence is true. The suggested receptacle for discarded mail is usually a blue secured recycling container found in most PO. But the regular ‘cans’ are meant for passive use trash like a coffee cup etc. Not someone’s solid kitchen waste bags

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I’m pretty sure the land the dumpster sits on is owned by either the the District which collects my amenity fee to run activities at the center or the District which collects my maintenance fee to take care of the facilities. Either way, my neighbors and I fund trash collection at those facilities.

As for what the INTENDED use of the postal station cans - there was a long thread on here a year or so ago about how they were NOT intended for junk mail.

You are correct that your fees help to pay for the dumpster rental at the rec centers. But, for Villagers or others to use the dumpster, it is technically considered illegal dumping by Florida law. On the other hand, the rec centers do not seem to be inclined to enforce the law. If they wanted to do so, they could post a sign, use a camera to identify violators, and report them to the police.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by frayedends

I save up the feces in my car for a few months and dump it in the postal station all the time. Not a problem.

Good grief this forum is full of wackos. How do do you get months of trash and feces out of a coffee cup? Really. The bins at the postal stations are for trash that you may have with you for any reason. A score card, junk mail, a coffee cup. And yes I put a small grocery store size bag in there if it’s not trash day when I travel. It’s all going to the same place and funded by the same people, us.

You jumped in late on this one my friend
What you’re describing is passive use. Read all the threads, your neighbors think because they missed trash pickups on their street...and won’t ask a neighbor to piggy back on theirs, that it’s ok to dump said trash elsewhere in TV. Ask all the others on here that demand links and supporting documentation.....where is theirs to support their contention that rec centers are for that purpose?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Your first paragraph may be true....so what’s your point?
By doing so...does that give you the right to throw household trash into those containers...as stated herein?

Your second sentence is true. The suggested receptacle for discarded mail is usually a blue secured recycling container found in most PO. But the regular ‘cans’ are meant for passive use trash like a coffee cup etc. Not someone’s solid kitchen waste bags

What blue secured recycling container and what PO? This thread is about the Villages which have postal stations, no “inside” accessible by the public, and no recycling.

As for the first part, I was responding to an assertion made in a previous post. The assertion was wrong and therefore does not support the conclusions that followed.

Reports of both the rec center employees and community watch affirming that the dumpsters can be used for the purposes described in this thread are good enough for me.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

What blue secured recycling container and what PO? This thread is about the Villages which have postal stations, no “inside” accessible by the public, and no recycling.

As for the first part, I was responding to an assertion made in a previous post. The assertion was wrong and therefore does not support the conclusions that followed.

Reports of both the rec center employees and community watch affirming that the dumpsters can be used for the purposes described in this thread are good enough for me.

Oh ok....so now you’re good with ‘reports’ of employees saying wtf...have at it. I remember when links to actual policies were your go to on here.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Oh ok....so now you’re good with ‘reports’ of employees saying wtf...have at it. I remember when links to actual policies were your go to on here.

Find a link to a policy and I’ll be happy to read it. In most cases there are rules that say one CANNOT do something- I haven’t been able to find one of those either. Lacking either, the direction (or permission) of those in charge is good enough for me.

(and I always try to be careful not to ask a question I don’t really want the answer to)

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

You are correct that your fees help to pay for the dumpster rental at the rec centers. But, for Villagers or others to use the dumpster, it is technically considered illegal dumping by Florida law. On the other hand, the rec centers do not seem to be inclined to enforce the law. If they wanted to do so, they could post a sign, use a camera to identify violators, and report them to the police.

Illegal dumping seems to be defined as dumping on private property without permission. There are probably definitions that include public property as well. In this case there was permission given so…

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Find a link to a policy and I’ll be happy to read it. In most cases there are rules that say one CANNOT do something- I haven’t been able to find one of those either. Lacking either, the direction (or permission) of those in charge is good enough for me.

(and I always try to be careful not to ask a question I don’t really want the answer to)

Wow, you’re reaching now. It’s all good, it’s posts like this that always come back to haunt one on other threads. ‘He/she said it was ok’ Duly noted

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Illegal dumping seems to be defined as dumping on private property without permission. There are probably definitions that include public property as well. In this case there was permission given so…

Isn't the rec center considered private property? And, at least some of the dumpsters are owned by Jacobs, which is a private company.

Also, I'll bet you a dollar that no Villages department will put it in writing that Villagers have permission to use rec center dumpsters. The rec centers even instruct event organizers that they are not allowed to use the dumpster.

[dewilson58]

Okay, I'll confess.......................I took the tag off of our mattress.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Okay, I'll confess.......................I took the tag off of our mattress.

Did you eat the mattress? If so, you are in the clear.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

You jumped in late on this one my friend
What you’re describing is passive use. Read all the threads, your neighbors think because they missed trash pickups on their street...and won’t ask a neighbor to piggy back on theirs, that it’s ok to dump said trash elsewhere in TV. Ask all the others on here that demand links and supporting documentation.....where is theirs to support their contention that rec centers are for that purpose?

Is verbal confirmation acceptable? Or do you need a notarized letter, in triplicate, signed in blood?

I mean we're talking about a small bag of trash, collected the night after our regular pickup day.

I asked, I was told it was fine, and that's good enough for me...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

Oh ok....so now you’re good with ‘reports’ of employees saying wtf...have at it. I remember when links to actual policies were your go to on here.

You remember? Didn't you just move in?

And no "reports" of someone saying nor intimating "WTF", they were quite sure of their answers... TO ME, when I asked them that very question...

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You remember? Didn't you just move in?

And no "reports" of someone saying nor intimating "WTF", they were quite sure of their answers... TO ME, when I asked them that very question...

Its funny. And I know you read every post in a thread...so you know it started as 'small bags' and got reduced to 'mattress tags'. Earlier posts were about household trash... crap they missed during their curb p/u.....big difference. When you see them lock the dumpsters like they do in your mid Atlantic states and mine as well, you'll know it got abused. And it will. 'He/she said it was ok'....so sell out an employee instead when it doesn't work out. I think I remember using that narrative....in elementary school

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Isn't the rec center considered private property? And, at least some of the dumpsters are owned by Jacobs, which is a private company.

Also, I'll bet you a dollar that no Villages department will put it in writing that Villagers have permission to use rec center dumpsters. The rec centers even instruct event organizers that they are not allowed to use the dumpster.

Who would be the private entity that owns the rec centers? I believe they are owned either by VCCDD or the numbered CDD (and I'm a bit embarrassed I don't know which).

Second, when the rec centers want to shut down poker because of the gambling their justification is you can't gamble in Govt. owned buildings in Florida. This also indicates the rec centers are owned by a CDD.

There might be a "property of Jacobs" sign on the dumpster or there might be Jacobs advertising on the dumpster but the dumpster was provided for use by the rec center. Rec center rules would apply and ALL we have to go on so far are multiple reports that the rec center has said it is ok to use the dumpster for the small amount of trash described in this thread.