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Imagine everyone having to take a final exam and no one scoring above 50%….
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YAY! Another Covid thread that will change exactly ZERO minds...
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The CDC is political, period. The "vaccines" have value but are not a sure thing. Talk to your doctor and manage your own health care.
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Nothing new, this has always been the case.
LOL Let's rewrite history.

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 2020

Today, Pfizer and BioNTech announced that their new experimental Covid-19 vaccine is 95% effective in preventing infections and causes no serious safety concerns, according to a final analysis of their clinical trial.

Pfizer and Moderna Covid vaccines 95% effective in clinical trials | NOVA | PBS
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Old 11-18-2021, 09:19 AM
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Geez , how many times do we here the unvaccinated who catch Covid
and get really sick and possibly die
say they wish they would of been vaccinated .
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Old 11-18-2021, 09:30 AM
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That seems to indicate that one out of six vaccinated and hospitalized for Covid, DIE in the hospital. Seems like an awful high number. How many UN-vaccinated hospitalized for Covid die?
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I don't why, but every time I hear the phrase 'herd immunity' I'm reminded of Cliff sitting at the bar telling Norm about his Buffalo Theory on an old "Cheers" episode.....

""Well you see, Norm, it's like this . . . A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the heard is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.

In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Now, as we know, excessive intake of alcohol kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. And that, Norm, is why you always feel smarter after a few beers."
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No. They are reporting the percentage (15%) of hospitalized deaths that were vaccinated. That is much different than saying 15% of those who are vaccinated and enter the hospital die. That chart did not report the percentage of people, regardless of their vaccination status, who died after entering the hospital.

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No. They are reporting the percentage (15%) of hospitalized deaths that were vaccinated. That is much different than saying 15% of those who are vaccinated and enter the hospital die.
Ah, isn't 15% about one out of six? Or, I can make it more accurate by saying 15 out of 100, if that makes it easier to understand. And we are only specifying these as being vaccinated that are hospitalized due to Covid.
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I'll try again since you don't seem to understand. 15%, or about 1/6, of those who die in the hospital (and presumably entered the hospital because of having developed COVID-19) have been vaccinated. This is different than saying 15% of those who are hospitalized (and were vaccinate) actually die. This is what you asserted. Not everyone who enters the hospital dies. But, if you enter the hospital and do die, there is a 15% probability that you were vaccinated. From the referenced chart, we don't know what percentages of people who enter the hospital who actually die.

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Ah, isn't 15% about one out of six? Or, I can make it more accurate by saying 15 out of 100, if that makes it easier to understand. And we are only specifying these as being vaccinated that are hospitalized due to Covid.
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Old 11-18-2021, 10:40 AM
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How many unvaccinated people crossing the border have died from this horrible pox that has besieged us?
Why has this plague not descimated all of those homeless that are occupying the lively Venice Beach and many cities in California?
Why has it not completely wiped out the Amish communities? When one Amish man was asked why, he simply stated that they don’t have TV.
Think for yourself, do your own research and turn off the nightly news, and open your Bible or Torah!

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No. They are reporting the percentage (15%) of hospitalized deaths that were vaccinated. That is much different than saying 15% of those who are vaccinated and enter the hospital die. That chart did not report the percentage of people, regardless of their vaccination status, who died after entering the hospital.
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Ah, isn't 15% about one out of six? Or, I can make it more accurate by saying 15 out of 100, if that makes it easier to understand. And we are only specifying these as being vaccinated that are hospitalized due to Covid.
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I'll try again since you don't seem to understand. 15%, or about 1/6, of those who die in the hospital (and presumably entered the hospital because of having developed COVID-19) have been vaccinated. This is different than saying 15% of those who are hospitalized (and were vaccinate) actually die. This is what you asserted. Not everyone who enters the hospital dies. But, if you enter the hospital and do die, there is a 15% probability that you were vaccinated. From the referenced chart, we don't know what percentages of people who enter the hospital who actually die.
There is a name for this kind of contest, just cannot seem to recall.
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Old 11-18-2021, 11:32 AM
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60% of Americans are vaccinated, another 25%+- have natural immunity, (proven more effective than the vac), so that’s roughly 85%, way above the 70% threshold of herd immunity. Just saying.
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