[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Andyb

60% of Americans are vaccinated, another 25%+- have natural immunity, (proven more effective than the vac), so that’s roughly 85%, way above the 70% threshold of herd immunity. Just saying.

Delta is much more infectious than when those estimated were made


Heard immunity for Delta is estimated to be as high as the 90-95.

Delta Variant Pushes Herd Immunity Threshold Above 80%

[Boffin]

[Koapaka]

Yeah, keep on keepin on with your annual booster shots that train your immune system to take a break and not worry about stuff.....God Bless.

[jswirs]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

Yeah, keep on keepin on with your annual booster shots that train your immune system to take a break and not worry about stuff.....God Bless.

BINGO!! Yes, that is correct, vacs and boosters may help somewhat, but only for a short period of time. So what you are left with is a weakened immune system.

[Altavia]

Byte1 - Nobel attempt. There are two kind of people in the world, those can learn, and those who won't.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

Geez , how many times do we here the unvaccinated who catch Covid
and get really sick and possibly die
say they wish they would of been vaccinated .

I've NEVER heard from any of the dead by covid say they wish they would have been vaccinated........:1 rotfl:

Originally Posted by Koapaka

Yeah, keep on keepin on with your annual booster shots that train your immune system to take a break and not worry about stuff.....God Bless.

Actually the booster tells your immune system to get busy.

[Koapaka]

Originally Posted by John41

Actually the booster tells your immune system to get busy.

ALL of the first 4 know victims of the new variant were fully vaccinated...Your next guess????

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...ac&oe=61A70CFA

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

ALL of the first 4 know victims of the new variant were fully vaccinated...Your next guess????https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...ac&oe=61A70CFA

Vaccination worked ok on the past variants. The new ones we don’t know about yet.

I take it that you are alluding to the fact that the vaccines don’t work because these guys were vaccinated. Well that’s like saying the light clothes you wore in the summer aren’t doing much for you in the winter. Next…

[Bogie Shooter]

Note to self: avoid this thread until June 1st.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by jswirs

And so, does this not prove that those who refuse the vaccine are NOT part of the problem? It seems to me that all these months of folks wailing, complaining and pointing fingers at the unvaccinated have been unnecessary and unfounded.

It is obvious, people will complain about anything. They do not need to be qualified to do so.
We tend to expect, demand perfection and that is rare in terms of reality.
I am not qualified. My OPINION the injections are the best plan, path for us to take.
Guinea pig? I've taken 3 shots of the Physer vaccine. Side effect-I continue to get older every day

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

ALL of the first 4 know victims of the new variant were fully vaccinated...Your next guess????https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...ac&oe=61A70CFA

Source?

South Africa has currently fully vaccinated less than 36% of its adult population so that seems highly unlikely.

It's way to early to make any generalzations on the varient but wise to be cautious.

[Koapaka]

Originally Posted by Robbie0723

Source?

South Africa has currently fully vaccinated less than 36% of its adult population so that seems highly unlikely.

It's way to early to make any generalzations on the varient but wise to be cautious.

IF and when you can show me mortality rate for this new variant, then being "more transmissible" could be a HUGE issue....but it is not the case and the media is bending the headlines to scare people into submission. Our motto was "need vs greed". My choice was "need vs greed" medicine even that many years ago.....


Their own Gov officials...https://twitter.com/BWGovernment/sta...785280/photo/1

AGAIN, listen carefully to their "sales pitch"...much more "contagious"....ok, so how does the death rate from this new and improved strain compare ( especially given the huge number of unvaxed in that country)????? Seems these people "caught" were well enough to travel, given that is how they were "caught". Makes one wonder....if you feel well enough to travel internationally, just how sick are you??? Take a simple moment and look at the global picture every time one of these new strains are announced, and see what has shifted/changed/surfaced and ask yourself if there is a connection, a requirement for more control to distract. When you see people dying in droves, that is very different than NEW VARIANT, MUCH MORE CONTAGIOUS, MUST ISSUE MORE CONTROL ON MASSES. Here is the article from the Dr who discovered it.....South African Doctor Who Raised Alarm About Omicron Variant: 'Symptoms Were So Different And So Mild'

Sad but true....FOLLOW THE MONEY! There are so many people making so much money off of this, the gravy train will be perpetuated in the name of "safety" long beyond our lifetime....

I believe in medicine for the sake of healing, NOTHING MORE. Certainly not for the reasons so many are milking this....for the sake of profit. How funny that the powers that be do not hold the country responsible for this plague upon the entire earth accountable....makes one wonder if they think at all...why would that be???? One of the main reasons I decided to go into military medicine, it was all based on needs and not profits. IF you need a test/procedure it is based on need and not ability to pay/insurance/income.....ONLY on need and without prejudice.


PS....spell check is your friend.

[jswirs]

Originally Posted by DAVES

It is obvious, people will complain about anything. They do not need to be qualified to do so.
We tend to expect, demand perfection and that is rare in terms of reality.
I am not qualified. My OPINION the injections are the best plan, path for us to take.
Guinea pig? I've taken 3 shots of the Physer vaccine. Side effect-I continue to get older every day

I get it Daves, I'm happy to hear you have not had any side effects. On the other hand, there are many who have not had the vaccinations, they also are continuing to get older. I would be very careful about getting these booster shots. There will always be new variants, so I guess there will always be new vaccinations, boosters. Be well!

[MDLNB]

Africa has suffered only about 4% of the world's covid deaths. Of course, they have a very low age average BUT, Africa also uses a whole lot of malaria Meds. Sound familiar? Not going to get into another argument regarding the use of those "forbidden" medications, but I thought it interesting.
I agree that there seems to be an abundance of over hype on the new covid variance. From what is reported at present, it does not seem to be anywhere as lethal as the earlier versions. Guess we will just have to wait and see. Seems like there is a big push going on in D.C. for everyone to get their boosters. "...it's the patriotic thing to do....blah,blah." Give me a break!