[Ignatz]

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234

He was behind me in the left lane, he sped up and went into the right lane and floored it. I guess he needed to be first to the Morse bypass. Ps. I wasn't going slow.

Can’t wait to read the upcoming thread where someone will be complaining about the left lane hogs on Morse and how they had to pass them on the right. lol

[jimkerr]

People drive way too slow here. It causes others to drive like maniacs.

[Davonu]

Any place in the country, any type of roadway, there will be mostly good drivers and a few bad. Just drive safely and stay alert for those bad ones.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Speeding counts. Passing in a roundabout is unnecessary and is aggressive/dangerous. That counts.
Everyday I see folks, speeding, zigzagging through traffic, tailgating, running stop signs and traffic lights, etc. When one ignores traffic laws, safety signs, drives erratically and aggressivly trying to get ahead of one car or make the stale light, they are not showing what a great driver they are. They are proving what a jerk they are, arrogant and self important, with no regard for others.
I know some of those folks and, sadly, they are totally clueless. In their mind, the are never at fault. It's always the other people.

98% agree with you. However---ever come up on someone going 3 mph in a RB??? How about the idiots who come to a complete stop??? I will find a way to SAFELY pass them, RB or elsewhere. Yes, I might even cross a solid white line in a RB to do so---too effing bad.

[Mrmean58]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Speeding counts. Passing in a roundabout is unnecessary and is aggressive/dangerous. That counts.
Everyday I see folks, speeding, zigzagging through traffic, tailgating, running stop signs and traffic lights, etc. When one ignores traffic laws, safety signs, drives erratically and aggressivly trying to get ahead of one car or make the stale light, they are not showing what a great driver they are. They are proving what a jerk they are, arrogant and self important, with no regard for others.
I know some of those folks and, sadly, they are totally clueless. In their mind, the are never at fault. It's always the other people.

I agree that in most cases passing in a round about is unnecessary and can be dangerous. But so is driving 10 mph or slower or coming to a complete stop to wave another driver to enter the round about. If someone cannot safely maintain the proper speed in a round about, they should strongly consider giving up driving. All the driving infractions you list are the reasons the state of Florida are considering being back the law which will require periodic driving road tests for seniors when they reach a certain age. No more auto renewals of driver's license.

[kendi]

Originally Posted by jimkerr

People drive way too slow here. It causes others to drive like maniacs.

Driving slower is a good practice as one ages. So is patience with the way others drive.

[bark4me]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Speeding counts. Passing in a roundabout is unnecessary and is aggressive/dangerous. That counts.
Everyday I see folks, speeding, zigzagging through traffic, tailgating, running stop signs and traffic lights, etc. When one ignores traffic laws, safety signs, drives erratically and aggressivly trying to get ahead of one car or make the stale light, they are not showing what a great driver they are. They are proving what a jerk they are, arrogant and self important, with no regard for others.
I know some of those folks and, sadly, they are totally clueless. In their mind, the are never at fault. It's always the other people.

Will only increase as the population increases.

[Nell57]

You’ll see everything here.
When I go out I just assume the driver near me is getting ready to do something really stupid. They don’t disappoint…..and it’s much worse in snowbird season.
After you’ve been here long enough you realize it’s just how life rolls. Drive defensively and keep on smiling.

[Cuervo]

The other day on my way to Publix I follow a car into the center lane at the traffic circle on Morse Blvd. from Pinellas Pl. When the car reached the second exit Moyer Loop it slowly shifted to the outside lane as if to exit. I almost had to come to a complete stop. Then was surprised they did not exit and also did not take the exit North on Morse Blvd but slowed down, this time I had to come to a complete stop because the car was blocking my exit. It’s one thing to understand the basic rules of the traffic circle, but what can you do with people who don’t know where they are going. Accident waiting to happen.

[gorillarick]

Several examples of defending lousy, inconsiderate, and dangerous behavior here.

example: "People drive way too slow here. It causes others to drive like maniacs."
No you drive like a maniac because you want to. You feel the need on the way to Walmart? Really.

You moved to a retirement community. huumpt
But you resent old people just trying to get there safely.
And you defend people speeding, tailgating, and weaving thru traffic? huumpt

Just this week I was in two pretty bad traffic backups locally. I wonder if reckless driving had anything to do with it?
Or, maybe a senior driver on the way to a doctor's appointment unnerved by a reckless driver driving like a maniac?

[rsmurano]

Speed has nothing to do with it. The worst drivers are the ones that stop before entering before the roundabout when there are no cars in sight for blocks, want to go 5mph around the roundabout, and then people that are in the right lane in a roundabout that have their left blinker on so they can make the 3rd exit, so the blinker is supposed to make the 3rd exit right when it’s against the law.
I pass many people in the left lane in a roundabout because I don’t stop if I don’t see any cars nearby, and I go the speed limit.
Also, you wouldn’t have people going in and out in traffic if the slow drivers would drive in the slow lane, but they don’t and that’s where you have problems. If you drive in Germany, hear slow drivers in the left lane would get a ticket, the Germans know that slow drivers are the problem, not the speeders. Another example in Germany, if you are going 150mph in the left lane on the autobahn, and you see a car coming behind you, you must pull over to the middle or right lane. If you don’t you get a ticket. If you pass on the right, both the driver in the left lane and the passer get tickets, and if somebody flashes their brights on the car in front of them, the slow driver gets a ticket. And Germany is safer to drive at 200mph than we are here in a 20mph roundabout

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234

Being fairly new, I didn't know that turnabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the turnabout at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

Lived in TV 5 years. Have never seen anyone going this fast in a roundabout. In order to correctly enter a roundabout is like coming across a yield sign.

[srswans]

I don’t understand. You were going fast and you’re angry that someone was able to pass you? In a roundabout no less.

I’m not sure what the problem is here. Ego?

Originally Posted by BPRICE1234

Being fairly new, I didn't know that turnabouts are the perfect place to attempt to pass someone. Entering the turnabout at 25mph wasn't fast enough for the old brown Lexus so he decided to try and pass. Now, I see why road rage is all the rage in TV. IMHO.

[CybrSage]

There are two kinds of whiners wet driving, those who say others are way too fast and those who say others are way to slow.
Neither driving slowly nor quickly is safe to do with others around.

It is fun to read how angry both types get. Stress and anger shorten lifespans, removing both types from the road sooner. It is a win-win.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by gorillarick

Several examples of defending lousy, inconsiderate, and dangerous behavior here.

example: "People drive way too slow here. It causes others to drive like maniacs."
No you drive like a maniac because you want to. You feel the need on the way to Walmart? Really.

You moved to a retirement community. huumpt
But you resent old people just trying to get there safely.
And you defend people speeding, tailgating, and weaving thru traffic? huumpt

Just this week I was in two pretty bad traffic backups locally. I wonder if reckless driving had anything to do with it?
Or, maybe a senior driver on the way to a doctor's appointment unnerved by a reckless driver driving like a maniac?

And a perfect example of defining lousy, inconsiderate, and dangerous behavior above.

Paraphrasing:
- If you're not driving the way *I* drive then you're a lousy driver
- If you're driving faster than me then you're a dangerous driver
- If you're changing lanes to pass me then you're an inconsiderate driver

Many causes for traffic backups. I'm surprised such an attentive driver would not have noticed the cause for the backup as they progressed through it.

I've seen backups recently due to heavy traffic at the 44/Morse intersection - no reckless driving caused that.

I saw a backup earlier this wee due to the traffic signal being out at the 44/Morse intersection - no reckless driving caused that.

I've seen backups recently due to very considerate drivers stopping at the entry to a roundabout and waiting not only until there was no traffic approaching but until there was no traffic in sight - ??? Was that a case of reckless driving manifested as overly-considerate driving??