[jimbomaybe]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

So if you don’t agree with a comment, it’s whining. Have no clue why Archie B equates with this matter…

I like to think that there are many people who missed the the point of AB , it allows me to inflate my self image, I will not call someone who is not a citizen of our country an alien, who entered illegally an illegal alien, but a migrant so I can distance myself from from the practical and legal ramifications and and feel noble and generous

[ChrisTinaBruce]

Source, please. Being in the residential building products industry since 1987 i can confirm Master is still used predominantly.

Just since 2020 have I seen primary and this was only in NYC and Northern California.

Originally Posted by photo1902

Aren't you tired of using that cliché term by now?

Realtors and builders nationwide have been using Primary or Principal to refer to bedrooms for the last five years or so.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by mickey100

Me too. This whole thread is so typical of old people. They want everything to stay the same. Get real. Life changes, and smart people adapt. And why has the word "woke" become a slur? Woke means being politically aware, awake, realizing that society doesn’t treat everyone equally and accepting into the fact that everyone experiences life differently. So if someone calls their bedroom the primary bedroom it is being "woke" ?Huh? It doesn't even make sense. Don't you people have something more important to care about?

I disagree.
Most people read or use a word purely in context of the subject being discussed.
Far to many are looking to be offended by the use of any word despite the context.
Master, Primary, Main, Big, whatever, who gives a toss?
In context they describe the subject.
Far to many thin skins around today!

[Rwirish]

I do.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by ChrisTinaBruce

Source, please. Being in the residential building products industry since 1987 i can confirm Master is still used predominantly.

Just since 2020 have I seen primary and this was only in NYC and Northern California.

“Main floor primary suite has a lovely reading nook with access to the back patio, huge walk-in closet with built in safe and bath w/dual vanities.” Adasgun Jones Realty, Hartford, Wisconsin

“The primary suite has a full bath and walk-in closet.”Coldwell Banker, Ohio

“The Nouveau Collection will feature four unique home designs offering rear two-car garages, front porches, open kitchen/great room combos, outdoor living, loft spaces, luxurious primary bedroom suites”. Toll Brothers builders, Maryland

“The owner's suite boasts big daylight private views to the rear of the property”, Morris Raney Real Estate, Georgia

“The home features an attached guest suite, complete with 1 car garage, main level primary suite, an open floor plan”, Clear Creek, Tahoe

“Primary Bed Downstairs”, Blackburn Communities, Mississippi

Just a small sampling. Now it’s coffee time.

[Mrmean58]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that TV new home floor plans label the “Master” suite and bath as “Primary”.

A subtle indication of softness which is spreading across our country. Words hurt? It continues for anything that may “offend” someone in our language use.

The label changes were adopted by the national builders and realtor associations a couple years ago. It's not just a Villages thing.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Mrmean58

The label changes were adopted by the national builders and realtor associations a couple years ago. It's not just a Villages thing.

Correct.

Like a Rolling Stone

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I disagree.
Most people read or use a word purely in context of the subject being discussed.
Far to many are looking to be offended by the use of any word despite the context.
Master, Primary, Main, Big, whatever, who gives a toss?
In context they describe the subject.
Far to many thin skins around today!

Actually we agree. The point is, the definition of "woke" would not apply to the labeling of a bedroom in a house.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Yup.....too much "woke" stuff going on. I do understand why the use of the word "master" is frowned upon by the woke generation but I do not agree with any of that stuff. It is infuriating to see our history being erased.

"It is infuriating to see our history being erased."


What history is being "erased" and how is it supposedly being done? Refusing to glorify the ugly parts of our country's history (treason from some states and those who led it) with monuments/statues/plaques/etc., is far from erasing history and is in fact simply shining a bright light on it - so that we can learn and not repeat those abhorrent mistakes.

Book banning and the refusal to discuss real race history, are much more of a threat to this country ever reaching its full potential and promise of equality.

The real problem for so many, is that factual history is being revealed/disseminated to more and more people and that is outrageous to them. For instance, how many had been taught, or knew, of the Tulsa Race Massacre - until recent years?

Be assured, that the outrage of changing the name of the largest bedroom in a house to 'owner's suite/primary bedroom' is not a coincidence that it's coming from whites - who would have been historically considered...'The Master's.'

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Whining about this is simply another example, of those who weren't smart enough to know that Archie Bunker was meant to be a caricature of an abhorrent human being...not a role model. lol

The six of us kids (siblings) would affectionately refer to Dad as “Archie”. Didn’t agree with how he was raised but loved him just the same. Just as language changes so do people and their attitudes. Shame that we ALL can’t realize that and move forward instead of picking at scabs. Otherwise they never heal.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

The six of us kids (siblings) would affectionately refer to Dad as “Archie”. Didn’t agree with how he was raised but loved him just the same. Just as language changes so do people and their attitudes. Shame that we ALL can’t realize that and move forward instead of picking at scabs. Otherwise they never heal.

There's a huge difference between "picking at a scab" and having a current festering/infected wound - that many want to completely ignore.

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that TV new home floor plans label the “Master” suite and bath as “Primary”.

A subtle indication of softness which is spreading across our country. Words hurt? It continues for anything that may “offend” someone in our language use.

Electrical plugs have "male" and "female" configurations. I wonder how wokeness will treat these? I don't think that I would want "gender fluid" electrical outlets in my house.

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by tvbound

There's a huge difference between "picking at a scab" and having a current festering/infected wound - that many want to completely ignore.

Maybe that festering wound is festering and unhealed because some want to keep picking at it. After awhile it gets bigger and bigger and more infected. Just leave it alone and let it heal. Brainwashing people to believe they are racist when they are not?? There must be a special place in hell for people like that.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by JGibson

In NY they changed the name from inmates to incarcerated individual.

I thought this was fake news. It is not!

New York to Replace ‘Inmate’ With ‘Incarcerated Individual’

[nick demis]

I intentionally look for any way I can oppose wokeness. Not sorry if it offends anyone.