[fredthefisherman]

Originally Posted by rustyp

To the young man - I dare say there are few of us who didn't have a fubar in their career's. You can't make a habit out of it. If this is solely the reason they fired you be thankful. At 24 years old you don't want to make a career with this kind of employer. In no way did I interpret your video as anything more than good hearted fun. I also think it would actually sell more homes. In a certain way it was complimentary of us old fogies living a great lifestyle. One of my interpretations of your video is to live here makes you feel and act younger. Send that to your ex employer with my permission. Good luck in the future. You will do just fine.

Agreed.
The kid is likely fresh out of college and this was his first job. I'm sure The Villages paid him $12/hour and he was staying with his grandparents to save a couple of pennies. He is creative and has a passion...I think The Villages could have harnessed that passion and used it to their benefit. Perhaps Villagers could hire him to take & edit videos of their activities - clubs, meetings, fund raisers, or celebrations and post them on the web. He has a passion and he is not out in the streets getting arrested! Support him! Let's get behind him! All of us have made mistakes, I'm sure he has learned from his.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by fredthefisherman

Agreed.
The kid is likely fresh out of college and this was his first job. I'm sure The Villages paid him $12/hour and he was staying with his grandparents to save a couple of pennies. He is creative and has a passion...I think The Villages could have harnessed that passion and used it to their benefit. Perhaps Villagers could hire him to take & edit videos of their activities - clubs, meetings, fund raisers, or celebrations and post them on the web. He has a passion and he is not out in the streets getting arrested! Support him! Let's get behind him! All of us have made mistakes, I'm sure he has learned from his.

This post makes a lot of assumptions. Is it based on firsthand knowledge or conjecture?

[rexxfan]

Originally Posted by spring_chicken

I don't know the terms of employment, either. It was called "derogatory and an embarrassment to the company" by the leadership of the Villages Media Group.

I didn't watch it all the way through, but my general sense of it was it had a mocking undertone. Not really derogatory though. Firing the person was the wrong call in my opinion.
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[rexxfan]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

... without daddy advocating for him on his Facebook page.

Yes, the number of posts from the Dad on the subject to that FaceBook page seemed a bit over the top. Made me cringe a bit. Kinda embarassing. To me, it came across as an attempt to generate a lot of views of the video ... you know, clickbait.
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[fredthefisherman]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

This post makes a lot of assumptions. Is it based on firsthand knowledge or conjecture?

Some assumption given his age, knowledge of local wages, his 4 days of vacation this year and the previous postings...just an assumption. The kid showed himself joining in Villages activities (dancing on stage with Scooter), so I don't see any of it as slander...and the video he posted is titled what it's like for him to live here. He was sarcastic but so is Don Knotts and Regis Philbin.

My youngest daughter graduated nursing school in Leesburg in 2012. Her starting pay is $18/hour at a near by hospital.

[chuck90199]

I thought it was quite clever and creative. However, was every of second of video shot by him, or someone he appointed to shoot it for him? If not, then perhaps that was a reason for the firing. Using footage belonging to someone else, or owned by the company, is technically a crime. It's no less a crime than pirating songs or movies from the internet.

[Chatbrat]

Why would anyone go to college for an $18.00/ hr job. Assume student debt. for 36/k a year. If she's a RN go in the military--way more money and benefits.

[cquick]

I am just happy to see such a lively discussion on the topic! so many voices participating makes life interesting.

[Taltarzac725]

I shared his video on Facebook. I will put on there that I never met him and know nothing about the artist who made this video nor know any of the circumstances surrounding the making of it.

[fredthefisherman]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Why would anyone go to college for an $18.00/ hr job. Assume student debt. for 36/k a year. If she's a RN go in the military--way more money and benefits.

That's how it is these days my friend. Military pays the same. Go to USA Jobs website and look at the job openings and salaries.
It's the same for all new nurses and no more nurse pension...and one nurse union out of CA.

[fredthefisherman]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Why would anyone go to college for an $18.00/ hr job. Assume student debt. for 36/k a year. If she's a RN go in the military--way more money and benefits.

It's a reality in most professions these days. Low wages and high college loans. With that said, she went to Leesburg Community College for her RN, the Tuition is a bargain. She doesn't have student debt. But for those who do, they move home to save on rent. It's changed a lot since we were young.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by fredthefisherman

It's a reality in most professions these days. Low wages and high college loans. With that said, she went to Leesburg Community College for her RN, the Tuition is a bargain. She doesn't have student debt. But for those who do, they move home to save on rent. It's changed a lot since we were young.

You should see the debts on some of the kids coming out of school now.

I went to Law School from 1986-1989 and paid very little relatively compared with what they fork out now. I went to a State Public University-- the University of Minnesota Law School and worked myself through but am still paying a very small amount in student loans. I have four degrees and took additional classes besides.

I got the State of Nevada to forgive a Stipend Grant for the work I did pro bono for survivors/victims of crimes from the States of MN, CA, IL, and FL in my 224 613 Project. So, I do think meaningful volunteer work can be counted in some situations as work using your degree. This was for my MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver which considers itself and charges Ivy League (West) tuition. The State of Nevada forgave this Stipend Grant in September of 2000. I was volunteering at the Palm Harbor Library back then but that was about it as far as work was concerned. I earned my MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver over a 12 month period in 1983-1984, graduating in May 1984.

The two degrees I have from the University of Nevada, Reno (Philosophy, 1980; History, 1981) were paid for through by working summers as an Assistant Manager at a Food Service at a soft ball park, Bower's Mansion Historical Monument and some winter weekends at the Sky Tavern Ski Training Program.

Students should pursue these kind of volunteer and/or pro bono kinds of options if they are available. Marquis Who Who's nominated me for 24 of their publications from 1992 through 2002 fighting for practical materials accessible through libraries for survivors/victims of crimes. This was doing the work from my parents' home computer while I was living at home in Palm Harbor, Florida and before that Rohnert Park, CA.

I just want some people to see that even though some of us living at home a job does not define who we are. I believe I have done a huge amount of good mainly because I have not had any institutional limitations on me. There have been legal controls of course as I contact law enforcement agencies, governmental entities of other sorts, etc. I have not had to meet in committees and the like which often would take up a lot of the time when I worked at the University of Minnesota Law Library.

I do hope that this 24 year old kid does not feel put upon by some of the attitudes I have found in the ten plus years I have lived in the Villages while living with my parents. It was a lot worse in Palm Harbor when trying to explain this situation but there have been a few difficult experiences here in the Villages as well.

[fredthefisherman]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

You should see the debts on some of the kids coming out of school now.

I went to Law School from 1986-1989 and paid very little relatively compared with what they fork out now. I went to a State Public University-- the University of Minnesota Law School and worked myself through but am still paying a very small amount in student loans. I have four degrees and took additional classes besides.

I got the State of Nevada to forgive a Stipend Grant for the work I did pro bono for survivors/victims of crimes from the States of MN, CA, IL, and FL in my 224 613 Project. So, I do think meaningful volunteer work can be counted in some situations as work using your degree. This was for my MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver which considers itself and charges Ivy League (West) tuition. The State of Nevada forgave this Stipend Grant in September of 2000. I was volunteering at the Palm Harbor Library back then but that was about it as far as work was concerned.

Students should pursue these kind of volunteer and/or pro bono kinds of options if they are available. Marquis Who Who's nominated me for 24 of their publications from 1992 through 2002 fighting for practical materials accessible through libraries for survivors/victims of crimes. This was doing the work from my parents' home computer while I was living at home in Palm Harbor, Florida.

I just want some people to see that even though some of us living at home a job does not define who we are. I believe I have done a huge amount of good mainly because I have not had any institutional limitations on me. There have been legal controls of course as I contact law enforcement agencies, governmental entities of other sorts, etc. I have not had to meet in committees and the like which often would take up a lot of the time when I worked at the University of Minnesota Law Library.

Law School tuition, minimum $250,000. Interest on student loans is generally 8%. We pay less interest on a car loan folks.

It sounds like you found some great ways to pay for your tuition. Keep in mind, programs like these are VERY competitive and fewer exist - many budget cuts.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Why would anyone go to college for an $18.00/ hr job. Assume student debt. for 36/k a year. If she's a RN go in the military--way more money and benefits.

The military isn't for everyone. Community College makes a lot of sense. Its much much cheaper for two years of college and the credits will easily transfer to a four year program at a State supported university. Most wouldn't want their daughter or grand daughter to end up in the middle east somewhere just to have their college paid for. That is a real possibility today.

The starting salary in Florida is nothing like it might be in another State. That goes for nurses and teachers.

[Chatbrat]

I'm spoiled-my wife's nephew is a union carpenter in NYC-base pay $66.00/hr he as had some 20K months when they are renovating big ticket items such as Madison Sq. & Macy's.

I retired back in 95-and I was paying some of my me $25/hr then--but that was Morris County NJ