[Larryandlinda]

Originally Posted by cybrgeezer

I've heard it said that one mark of a true Floridian is that, in the summer, s/he parks in the shade rather than in the closest space.

Thanks
we feel so welcome!
true is better than false!
unless it's a drug test!

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[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

Really? Rather than just saying it, please give specifics on how you have arrived at that conclusion. I'm wondering if that's opinion or fact.

That is my opinion boss.

[BobKat1]

I wonder what % of TV residents legally carry? 1%-2% (700-1,500)? Even that seems like it might be high.

Seems like a non issue to me, as long a people aren't shooting each other and that seems to be the case.

[Larryandlinda]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

That is my opinion boss.

....the world's FOREMOST AUTHORITY of her own opinion!

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[nitehawk]

Originally Posted by Yoda

sorry but your source is a crock. Stick with FBI stats and include them all, not just the ones that support your opinion.

Yoda

WOOOO - slow down - Partner - this isnt HIGH NOON - just like to see the FBI stats (not NRA sites). Maybe i can see if you information is a crock. Or maybe we can meet a dawn with our seconds - under the clock in LSL

[Larryandlinda]

Originally Posted by nitehawk

WOOOO - slow down - Partner - this isnt HIGH NOON - just like to see the FBI stats (not NRA sites). Maybe i can see if you information is a crock. Or maybe we can meet a dawn with our seconds - under the clock in LSL

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscart...s/awhn350l.jpg

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[r_foye]

Originally Posted by redwitch

A police officer can aim to disable, can (well, must) warn.

As retired law enforcement I can tell we dont aim to disable or are we trained to disable. We shoot for "center mass." And police officers are not required to warn anyone before they shoot. That's televison, not real life.

[nitehawk]

Originally Posted by Larryandlinda

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscart...s/awhn350l.jpg

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Good One!!!

[Talk Host]

There are 18,537,969 people in Florida. There are 767,739 concealed weapons permits currently active in this state. That's 1 in every 24 people. So, if there are 80,000 people in the Villages, there are 3,333 concealed weapons permits here too. Add to that number the retired law enforcement officers who don't need a permit.

JLK

[bkcunningham1]

@nitehawk, no cartoons or cute emoticans or propoganda, just facts from Northwestern University School of Law, Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, vol. 86, issue 1, 1995.

"Consistently, research also has indicated that victims who resist by using guns or other weapons are less likely to be injured compared to victims who do not resist or to those who resist without weapons. This is true whether the research relied on victim surveys or on police records, and whether the data analysis consisted of simple cross-tabulations or more complex multivariate analyses. These findings have been obtained with respect to robberies[5] and to assaults.[6] Cook[7] offers his unsupported personal opinion concerning robbery victims that resisting with a gun is only prudent if the robber does not have a gun. The primary data source on which Cook relies flatly contradicts this opinion. National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) data indicate that even in the very disadvantageous situation where the robber has a gun, victims who resist with guns are still substantially less likely to be injured than those who resist in other ways, and even slightly less likely to be hurt than those who do not resist at all.[8] "

http://www.guncite.com/gcdgklec.html

[BobKat1]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

There are 18,537,969 people in Florida. There are 767,739 concealed weapons permits currently active in this state. That's 1 in every 24 people. So, if there are 80,000 people in the Villages, there are 3,333 concealed weapons permits here too. Add to that number the retired law enforcement officers who don't need a permit.

JLK

That 1 in 24/4%/3,333 (not including retired officers) seems a bit high to me when you consider the demographics of TV vs. the population of Fl in general.

But that's just my seat of the pants opinion.

[redwitch]

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there are more than 3,333 carrying here -- a lot of retired military on top of retired law enforcement and it really is easy to get a license in Florida.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if there are more than 3,333 carrying here -- a lot of retired military on top of retired law enforcement and it really is easy to get a license in Florida.

But MOST people aren't interested in getting a license or carrying a gun. That is my opinion, boss.

I have a lot of close friends. Friends I know WELL. I think I would have a big gathering at my funeral if I kicked the bucket right now. I know of one or two who have a gun, but none who carry one around.

I sure do like those friends. I don't deserve them either. I know it sounded like I was bragging.

Not everyone is the same. Not everyone thinks the same, boss.

[redwitch]

Gracie, you're not bragging but you're also wrong. You know me and I'd most definitely be there to say good-bye to you if it ever came to that. I carry at all times. I know of at least 3 others that have been to your home more than once that carry at least most of the time.

Most responsible gun owners don't brag about carrying, they rarely even mention they own a gun. I got my license shortly before I left California and have had a weapon on me at all times since then (even in Disney!). I didn't tell anyone that I carried for a long, long time but ultimately decided it was not fair to my friends and they should be able to make a choice whether they wanted a weapon in their home. And I do respect their wishes. You also have the "Smith & Wesson" bumper stickers idiots on their vehicles, but they're the exception rather than the rule when it comes to concealed licenses.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Gracie, you're not bragging but you're also wrong. You know me and I'd most definitely be there to say good-bye to you if it ever came to that. I carry at all times. I know of at least 3 others that have been to your home more than once that carry at least most of the time.

Most responsible gun owners don't brag about carrying, they rarely even mention they own a gun. I got my license shortly before I left California and have had a weapon on me at all times since then (even in Disney!). I didn't tell anyone that I carried for a long, long time but ultimately decided it was not fair to my friends and they should be able to make a choice whether they wanted a weapon in their home. And I do respect their wishes. You also have the "Smith & Wesson" bumper stickers idiots on their vehicles, but they're the exception rather than the rule when it comes to concealed licenses.

You are my friend, Redwitch and I know you carry and I know one of the big reasons why you do. When I exit stage right, the folks who come to launch me probably won't have a firearm except for you.

We went to a funeral for a dear friend last week, and the folks gathered were life long, close friends. I was just musing to myself in the middle of the night, as I do when sleep escapes me at times....that they would probably be the same group who would stand next to me or Sweetie too when the time came.

Those friends are no better than a group who mostly carry a gun.

Everyone is different in this world.

I still stick by what I said for my other friends.

Please come to my funeral Redwitch, and dance and drink and celebrate, but don't shoot anyone.

BUT,.....I am not planning on leaving anytime soon.