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Old 07-29-2016, 08:56 AM
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If you have lived for over 20 years in the Villages are using a walker or wheel chair been in the hospital 4 times and had 3 operations 2 broken hips and moved into assisted living in the Villages and show up at a recreation center to visit with your long time friends or possibly try to go to club that you have been going to for 15 years in a wheelchair or walker. If you can get wheelchair transport. Well what happens is you are barred from entry to the Recreation center. A person like this can not play golf, swim, play pickle ball, Bocce or just about any thing else. They would consume just about zero of the Villages recreation resources. They would occupy a chair in a room. That is DISGUSTING. How much money does the Villages have to make. You should remember that ever one who lives here is headed for the same situation. In most case this situation will not go on for long because many of these people will not live very long.
So if letting old people in wheelchairs and walkers be in a room in a recreation center with there friends is going to bankrupt the Villages then this is a very different Villages then I know. These people built the Villages and they are the ones who paid for this place.
So when you live in the villages and there is no more money to made from you and they are done with you, you are Expendable. I think that this situation surely earns the Villages the designation as (AS THE FREINDLIST HOME TOWN IN AMERICAN) as long as you are not very old and sick.

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If you have lived for over 20 years in the Villages are using a walker or wheel chair been in the hospital 4 times and had 3 operations 2 broken hips and moved into assisted living in the Villages and show up at a recreation center to visit with your long time friends or possibly try to go to club that you have been going to for 15 years in a wheelchair or walker. If you can get wheelchair transport. Well what happens is you are barred from entry to the Recreation center. A person like this can not play golf, swim, play pickle ball, Bocce or just about any thing else. They would consume just about zero of the Villages recreation resources. They would occupy a chair in a room. That is DISGUSTING. How much money does the Villages have to make. You should remember that ever one who lives here is headed for the same situation. In most case this situation will not go on for long because many of these people will not live very long.

So if letting old people in wheelchairs and walkers be in a room in a recreation center with there friends is going to bankrupt the Villages then this is a very different Villages then I know. These people built the Villages and they are the ones who paid for this place.

So when you live in the villages and there is no more money to made from you and they are done with you, you are Expendable. I think that this situation surely earns the Villages the designation as (AS THE FREINDLIST HOME TOWN IN AMERICAN) as long as you are not very old and sick.


I'm assuming you no longer have a Villages ID ? One of your friends can get you a guest ID.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:07 AM
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If you have lived for over 20 years in the Villages are using a walker or wheel chair been in the hospital 4 times and had 3 operations 2 broken hips and moved into assisted living in the Villages and show up at a recreation center to visit with your long time friends or possibly try to go to club that you have been going to for 15 years in a wheelchair or walker. If you can get wheelchair transport. Well what happens is you are barred from entry to the Recreation center. A person like this can not play golf, swim, play pickle ball, Bocce or just about any thing else. They would consume just about zero of the Villages recreation resources. They would occupy a chair in a room. That is DISGUSTING. How much money does the Villages have to make. You should remember that ever one who lives here is headed for the same situation. In most case this situation will not go on for long because many of these people will not live very long.
So if letting old people in wheelchairs and walkers be in a room in a recreation center with there friends is going to bankrupt the Villages then this is a very different Villages then I know. These people built the Villages and they are the ones who paid for this place.
So when you live in the villages and there is no more money to made from you and they are done with you, you are Expendable. I think that this situation surely earns the Villages the designation as (AS THE FREINDLIST HOME TOWN IN AMERICAN) as long as you are not very old and sick.
It's sad, however, if someone is in an assisted living facility, they are no longer a Village resident.
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It's sad, however, if someone is in an assisted living facility, they are no longer a Village resident.
and thats the saddest of all.......such a darn shame.....

rules need to be changed......
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and thats the saddest of all.......such a darn shame.....

rules need to be changed......
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If you have lived for over 20 years in the Villages are using a walker or wheel chair been in the hospital 4 times and had 3 operations 2 broken hips and moved into assisted living in the Villages and show up at a recreation center to visit with your long time friends or possibly try to go to club that you have been going to for 15 years in a wheelchair or walker. If you can get wheelchair transport. Well what happens is you are barred from entry to the Recreation center. A person like this can not play golf, swim, play pickle ball, Bocce or just about any thing else. They would consume just about zero of the Villages recreation resources. They would occupy a chair in a room. That is DISGUSTING. How much money does the Villages have to make. You should remember that ever one who lives here is headed for the same situation. In most case this situation will not go on for long because many of these people will not live very long.
So if letting old people in wheelchairs and walkers be in a room in a recreation center with there friends is going to bankrupt the Villages then this is a very different Villages then I know. These people built the Villages and they are the ones who paid for this place.
So when you live in the villages and there is no more money to made from you and they are done with you, you are Expendable. I think that this situation surely earns the Villages the designation as (AS THE FREINDLIST HOME TOWN IN AMERICAN) as long as you are not very old and sick.
If I've read it correctly, this post is actually profound.

How does the community treat its elders when they've become unable to live the lifestyle that's advertised and brought them to this community in the first place.

When advancing years force people out of their homes what should we do? The OP stated that he still lives within the boundary of The Villages but his situation implies that he doesn't own property here anymore.

It would be a nice gesture if there was a way to recognize his problem and give him vested status in the recreation areas that he paid for for so long, but the practicality is that in time there would be abuses. How long would you need to live here to qualify is one question, because I can imagine people moving here just to make the minimum deadline and then use the recreation centers for the rest of their lives.

One possibility is to simply charge the full amenity fee for those who live in any long term care facility that is within The Villages boundary if the facility manager can certify that the person is expected to live there permanently.

The OP is right, we're all headed in the same direction.
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If I've read it correctly, this post is actually profound.

How does the community treat its elders when they've become unable to live the lifestyle that's advertised and brought them to this community in the first place.

When advancing years force people out of their homes what should we do? The OP stated that he still lives within the boundary of The Villages but his situation implies that he doesn't own property here anymore.

It would be a nice gesture if there was a way to recognize his problem and give him vested status in the recreation areas that he paid for for so long, but the practicality is that in time there would be abuses. How long would you need to live here to qualify is one question, because I can imagine people moving here just to make the minimum deadline and then use the recreation centers for the rest of their lives.

One possibility is to simply charge the full amenity fee for those who live in any long term care facility that is within The Villages boundary if the facility manager can certify that the person is expected to live there permanently.

The OP is right, we're all headed in the same direction.
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at that stage of your life, and spending many years as a resident of TV, you should get some sort of privilege besides having to depend on old friends to allow your entrance.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:54 AM
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Would your friends be able to sign you in? You live within the 3 county area? Sad situation.
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Come on folks. This does not need to be a 75 reply post. Think with your head not your heart.

Next week I will be near my old Townhouse up on the Finger Lakes. I can't go there and use the Rec. Center. I see nothing wrong with that. I would love to see the posts when a resident is turned away from a Rec. Center here and told.....Sorry, it's all filled up with people who used to live here.

Rules are rules.... people need to follow them and stop trying to get around them.

I am willing to bet there is a better solution to this than going online to complain. This will accomplish NOTHING.
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This is an eye opening post. My sympathies certainly lie with the poster. Some very good points have been made. This will likely impact a great many of us as we age.

There is at least one facility (Freedom Point- maybe others) whose occupants do have Villages ID. But I believe they purchase their unit and thus own property.

Keep in mind that there are strict HOA covenants about who and how people are allowed to use the facilities. These covenants are not changed willy nilly. The developer can't change them, nor can anyone at the Rec centers.

If you feel strongly, however, start the ball rolling with your representative and ask them to address the situation and make provisions. It will probably take a great deal of discussion to change, not only how to identify these individuals, but protect against the inevitability of those who choose to take advantage of any loophole that comes along.

Thank you for bringing this up. I hope the answer is more simple than I think.
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Old 07-29-2016, 11:29 AM
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Assisted Living communities that are in the boundaries of the Villages pay fees to The Villages so a certain number of residents can use amenities as I understand. They apply to The Villages for these privileges and the cost I am sure is absorbed in the monthly fee that residents who live in the assisted living pay. Very few Assisted Living residents use amenities but I would expect the more independent ones do. The fees are covered by the community itself. Also all Assisted Living communities have buses with lifts that take residents places within a certain distance, if booked in advance.

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The rules should be changed for residences that have to located to an assisted living facility. If they are in the area they should be able to get guest pass.
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Some facilities offer Village amenities, some do not. As sad as it is, when people move and no longer own Villages property, they also relinquish their recreation benefits. They have moved.....whether 3 miles or 100 miles, they no longer are residents of the The Villages. If former residents were living in Leesburg or Summerfield, others might take exception to someone using the facilities when they no longer live and own property in TV. It is sad, but it is reality. Maybe someone here would be willing to take the individual to a rec center as a guest??
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Some facilities offer Village amenities, some do not. As sad as it is, when people move and no longer own Villages property, they also relinquish their recreation benefits. They have moved.....whether 3 miles or 100 miles, they no longer are residents of the The Villages. If former residents were living in Leesburg or Summerfield, others might take exception to someone using the facilities when they no longer live and own property in TV. It is sad, but it is reality. Maybe someone here would be willing to take the individual to a rec center as a guest??
Pleasant thought, Pooh...but...The Guest eligibility rules specify:
"Eligibility Requirements:
A resident with a valid Resident ID card can make application for a Guest ID
card. A qualified guest is defined as an individual whose current residence is
outside Lake, Marion and Sumter counties. A resident who has a son, daughter,
grandchild or great grandchild (and their spouses) who reside in Lake, Marion or
Sumter counties may apply for an In-Area Guest ID card."
http://www.districtgov.org/departmen...D%20Policy.pdf

So the OP would have to live beyond the tri-county area in order to qualify as a guest.
Otherwise the OP must live within the Villages community in a facility that offered the amenities pass of which Jane03267 posted.
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So their is your answer. Have one of your friends get you an in area guest card it is good for one year. That person just has to be with you. Problem solved.
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