[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

Let's say she had a gun in a holster tucked in her pants. She gets knocked down to the ground from behind, breaks a hip (I believe), laying on the ground with a broken hip and pulls out her pistol and plugs a running perp many yards away? Not going to happen, dude.



Let's also say "Granny" was a WAC during the Korean War. All she needs for a CCL is her DD214, fingerprinting, and pay about $100. No training or test or shooting skill required at all for a veteran even though military service might have been 70 years ago.



Anyhow, enjoy packing your gun in legal places.

The granny I know is far younger than 80, very skilled with a pistol, and I would not want to hack her off. She is very aware of her surroundings. And has excellent reflexes. I think you may be underestimating the skills of certain Villagers.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by John_W

Why would a woman with a concealed weapon permit carry a gun in the one place that a mugger would try to steal? Obviously posting opinions on a message board doesn't require training. Granny on the other hand, would of had to undergo training, fingerprinting, background checks, photographing, pay a few dollars here and there all before she received her concealed weapon permit. Then she would of probably visited a gun shop or two and most likely would not have been quite as dumb as you protrayed her in your example.

Originally Posted by MikeyBoo54

I guess I'm lost in the thread now.
Did the cigar chewer have a gun?

I'm a little confused also. What on earth does a gun have to do with a man with bad breath in a bar chewing on a cigar?
I guess I need to read all 60 posts.

John W -
Most 80 year old woman I know wouldn't have the slightest interest in obtaining a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by MikeyBoo54

I guess I'm lost in the thread now.

Did the cigar chewer have a gun? Was he letting his dog poop in the grass outside the bar? Was he a politician espousing gun control?

Is this a demonstration of how to hijack any thread into the standard issues of complaint at TV?

No, it's a demonstration of how rumors get started!

[Skybo]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Yesterday, my wife & myself were sitting @ the bar at an unnamed country club.

Two men sat down a few cars away. One of the men was chewing on a non smoking cigar that had about 1" of tobacco left-the stench was horrible- As a cigar smoker I could never smoke any cigar that short.

I asked the bar person , to ask the gentleman to kindly get rid of that "stinker"

she did so- and he kinda got in my face & said."next time ask me your self"

I asked the bar person to avoid the confrontation-that I suspected would arise.

Personally, if I were seated next to someone who somehow offended me, I would have moved. But since you "only eat at bars", I guess that limits your options, so you just have to deal with it.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

As I was reading this thread I saw some interesting stats on a CNN report.
Since 911 we have had 74 people killed in terriost attacks, to which $800m has been spent. During this same period there were 150,000 gun deaths,
which nothing has been spent or anything done.
Seems like our priorities are misplaced.......

About half of those gun deaths were suicide; that's their choice, I'm libertarian. The other half were drug/gang bangers; again, no problem there; taking out the trash.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by outlaw

About half of those gun deaths were suicide; that's their choice, I'm libertarian. The other half were drug/gang bangers; again, no problem there; taking out the trash.

Do you carry when taking out the trash?

[NotFromAroundHere]

Originally Posted by outlaw

About half of those gun deaths were suicide; that's their choice, I'm libertarian. The other half were drug/gang bangers; again, no problem there; taking out the trash.

Half suicides and half criminals. I had no idea that of all the gun deaths not a single innocent victim was involved. Learn something new every day.

[Carla B]

I'm curious about why the OP only eats at bars. More chance to socialize with strangers?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Do you carry when taking out the trash?

No. Actually, I don't carry in the compound. I feel pretty safe here. I admit that is a flimsy excuse for shirking my responsibility as a citizen to rely on others to protect me. But it is what it is. An Orlando LEO friend tells me "you have no idea what kind of people are around you". He even carries at Disney World. I guess you have to walk in his shoes to really appreciate how many predators there really are out there.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Carla B

I'm curious about why the OP only eats at bars. More chance to socialize with strangers?

Smaller tip?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere

Half suicides and half criminals. I had no idea that of all the gun deaths not a single innocent victim was involved. Learn something new every day.

That's why I said "about". Check out the FBI stats on suicides; it was an eye opener for me.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by Carla B

I'm curious about why the OP only eats at bars. More chance to socialize with strangers?

We tend to usually eat at the bar. We love people and have met many fun people at the bar. There's more of a chance to talk and meet people. Plus we like the bartenders.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Smaller tip?

Why would you think smaller tip? We tip the same as we would tip any where in the restaurant. We tip on the bill. Sometimes we tip more at the bar because we've been having a fun time.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by outlaw

No. Actually, I don't carry in the compound. I feel pretty safe here. I admit that is a flimsy excuse for shirking my responsibility as a citizen to rely on others to protect me. But it is what it is. An Orlando LEO friend tells me "you have no idea what kind of people are around you". He even carries at Disney World. I guess you have to walk in his shoes to really appreciate how many predators there really are out there.

Whenever we leave the home, I really never know where we might end up for the day, so mine is always with me. Concerning Orlando, I've lived in STL (one of the most dangerous cities in America) and KC (a relatively low crime city); Orlando (including the metro area) is as violent as STL (and it's metro area) is.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

Whenever we leave the home, I really never know where we might end up for the day, so mine is always with me. Concerning Orlando, I've lived in STL (one of the most dangerous cities in America) and KC (a relatively low crime city); Orlando (including the metro area) is as violent as STL (and it's metro area) is.

Orlando's expanding and we're only 60 miles north....