[kcrazorbackfan]

Actually, probably nothing. I more than likely would have gotten up and moved. Everybody wants to sue nowadays and with my background (LEO and 2nd degree Black Belt), I don't want to be questioned as to why I couldn't have avoided the confrontation. I back off from anything and everything unless my family is threatened.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Justus

Yikes! Can you not see the humor in this post? It was a JOKE!!!! For crying out loud, LIGHTEN UP, people!!!! I laughed my butt off when I read it! What a great sense of humor...too bad for anyone who didn't enjoy it the way it was intended.

Is there a reward for the lost butt?

[Wandatime]

It is a country club in a golfing community in the middle of summer. Men and women come in from playing golf in this heat reeking of sweat, body odor, stale perfume, cigarette and cigar smoke. I wouldn't have done a darned thing except continue to eat my lunch.

[Sandtrap328]

I think the OP did the right thing in asking the bar server to tell the man to get rid of his cigar chew. It is disgusting to see. I do wonder how much the "in your face" comment was, though. The cigar chewer was probably peeved and just asked why the OP could not have asked himself. Who cares? It is a nasty thing and the cigar chewer should have known it was going to bother someone but obviously either was not thinking or was a pig.

I, however, would like to find out WHY the OP feels it is necessary for him to carry a handgun whenever he leaves his house. Are you honestly so scared that something bad is going to happen to you in the area of The Villages? No, it is not like insurance coverage on a house or car. Those are mandated by the bank or by law.

How many times and under what circumstances have you had to draw your pistol since moving to The Villages?

[MikeyBoo54]

Originally Posted by Happinow

I believe there is no smoking inside any restaurant, even at the bar. If the bartender saw that this person had a cigar, she should have either nipped it in the bud herself right then and there or called for a manager to handle the situation. Patrons should not be put to in a situation like this where they have to feel uncomfortable. The rules are the rules with smoking, especially cigars, and someone with authority should have addressed this immediately without a patron asking them to do so.

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Please read before commenting. The man was not smoking he was chewing on a previously smoked cigar. Disgusting, but not a violation of the rules.

[Jima64]

Originally Posted by Wandatime

It is a country club in a golfing community in the middle of summer. Men and women come in from playing golf in this heat reeking of sweat, body odor, stale perfume, cigarette and cigar smoke. I wouldn't have done a darned thing except continue to eat my lunch.

A person that chews on the last of a cigar can have a horrible bad breath odor that goes beyond the smoking smell. I used to shop at a local market and the new clerk, an older gentleman would chew a cigar and it was so bad several customers quit shopping there. It went beyond the cigar aroma but just plain nasty breath so bad you could smell it as soon as you approached the checkout register.

[Yung Dum]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Assuming he was aggressive and violated your space, the correct response would have been to ask him if he would like to go around back and throw down with you. &holes rarely will take you up on that offer. Although sometimes they will. In that case make sure you have him go first, then as soon as he turns around to confront you, you sucker punch him in the face and don't stop until he is flat out and unconscious. This is, of course, assuming he is much smaller than you.

By far the best answer.

[Chatbrat]

The reason I carry a firearm, is the same reason I use seat belts, In The Villages as senior citizens we represent vulnerable targets to the criminal community. We possess wealth & the lifestyle that most native Floridans will never achieve. In Florida by statistics almost 10% are legally allowed to carry a forearmed concealed on their person. Police are minutes away when seconds count.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

The reason I carry a firearm, is the same reason I use seat belts, In The Villages as senior citizens we represent vulnerable targets to the criminal community. We possess wealth & the lifestyle that most native Floridans will never achieve. In Florida by statistics almost 10% are legally allowed to carry a forearmed concealed on their person. Police are minutes away when seconds count.

It's an individual's right and obligation to ensure his own personal safety, and that's not paranoia, even in TV. If the elderly Villager woman who was brutally mugged in the Target parking lot had been armed, I believe the outcome of the situation would have been entirely different...3 against 1...

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

I think the OP did the right thing in asking the bar server to tell the man to get rid of his cigar chew. It is disgusting to see. I do wonder how much the "in your face" comment was, though. The cigar chewer was probably peeved and just asked why the OP could not have asked himself. Who cares? It is a nasty thing and the cigar chewer should have known it was going to bother someone but obviously either was not thinking or was a pig.

I, however, would like to find out WHY the OP feels it is necessary for him to carry a handgun whenever he leaves his house. Are you honestly so scared that something bad is going to happen to you in the area of The Villages? No, it is not like insurance coverage on a house or car. Those are mandated by the bank or by law.

How many times and under what circumstances have you had to draw your pistol since moving to The Villages?

Are you saying that you would not buy insurance if you were not required to buy it?

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by Justus

It's an individual's right and obligation to ensure his own personal safety, and that's not paranoia, even in TV. If the elderly Villager woman who was brutally mugged in the Target parking lot had been armed, I believe the outcome of the situation would have been entirely different...3 against 1...

If that 80 year old woman had been armed, the chances are the pistol would have been carried in her purse.

The mugger came up in back of her, knocked her to the ground with one powerful blow, grabbed her purse and ran to a waiting car. That is how it happened according to all witnesses.

If she had been armed, the mugger would have gotten a gun as part of his loot.

[Happinow]

Originally Posted by outlaw

The guy wasn't smoking.

Then I would have gotten up and moved. Chewing is nauseating.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

If that 80 year old woman had been armed, the chances are the pistol would have been carried in her purse.

The mugger came up in back of her, knocked her to the ground with one powerful blow, grabbed her purse and ran to a waiting car. That is how it happened according to all witnesses.

If she had been armed, the mugger would have gotten a gun as part of his loot.

Why would you assume it would be in her purse...? Still, the MO of these 3 thugs proves the point that danger does exist in and around TV, and it's one's legal right to protect him/herself.

[Chatbrat]

The most important thing about personal safety is awareness, know whats around you at all times, while walking driving, etc.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

If that 80 year old woman had been armed, the chances are the pistol would have been carried in her purse.

The mugger came up in back of her, knocked her to the ground with one powerful blow, grabbed her purse and ran to a waiting car. That is how it happened according to all witnesses.

If she had been armed, the mugger would have gotten a gun as part of his loot.

I think what you are missing is the mindset of many CCW citizens. The whole idea of being responsible for your safety and protection includes being proficient in the use of your firearm, and being aware of your surroundings, among other things. The example you give is consistent with people who assume/expect the government to provide protection for them and their loved ones, or who play the numbers game thinking this will never happen to them...until it does. In this particular case, as in most, the government shows up to do the paperwork. If you are willing to offload your responsibility for your own safety to the government, be my guest. Don't buy house insurance either. After all, how many times has your house burned to the ground?