[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by jannd228

I think the OP is trying to say what happens when TV is �all built out�? I understand it is a 55 Plus Community, but I assume many have heard of �straw buyers�, people who purchase a home on paper but are not the actual owners. I am not sure what FL is like but here on Cape Cod this happens all the time.

The OP maybe right, suppose the homes are sold at a lower price, or left vacant for long periods of time for whatever reason? Cape Cod is the REVERSE season of TV. Each neighborhood developed its own security system (not what you think) to let neighbors and law enforcement know about when an owner was not present for long periods of time. Yes there are home watch services, but what happens when real estate agents purchase homes for rental purposes only?

This could happen in ANY neighborhood. Yes, I have seen changes in TV in the past 12 years but life is not static. There will always be change. Some changes are good; some not. None of us have a crystal ball.

[PennBF]

I am bowing out of this discussion. If someone is happy, content and having fun there is no way in heck I would want to impact that, not that I have any control over another's view.
There was an old adage where 3 monkey's (no pun meant) were given blind folds and after touching an elephants leg were asked what they just felt and each had a very different impression. This is similar as just reading through some of the answers you can see many have different views of the same conditions. It would be a terrible act to write and change the view of someone who is happy and content. Given this I am withdrawing as the last thing I would ever want to do is take away the joy someone is having in their life. The original intent was to stimulate some thought of the future but it has taken on a different life of its own and that was not my intent.

[bennete2]

I have been watching The Villages grow for 7 years.
This year with the assistance of a man I love very much we made the plunge!
I for one attempt to look at ecverything in a positive way. I attempt not to be negative.
The Morse family has turned farming land into a fantastic invenstment for them, a dream come true for others. Please look around and tell me if there is another community in the U.S. like this. We are all adults who are probably over 55..........we have come here to enjoy the life we have all dremed of. Golf, Tennis, Swimming, Dancing, summer time with our grandchildren and activites to be enjoyed by all, over 1,000 different organizations that a person can belong to. There are all sorts of medical facilities, we are looking to enjoy our golden years.
If the prediction is correct 2016 all lots and homes will be sold..............but OMG.......resales will be there for the public to see, bid, and purchase. I personally see the real estate value going up on our purchases.
Think POSITIVE..............many people from all walks of life to keep The Villages as a # 1 Retirement area to live in!
Thanks for reading my comments :-)

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by bennete2

I have been watching The Villages grow for 7 years.
This year with the assistance of a man I love very much we made the plunge!
I for one attempt to look at ecverything in a positive way. I attempt not to be negative.
The Morse family has turned farming land into a fantastic invenstment for them, a dream come true for others. Please look around and tell me if there is another community in the U.S. like this. We are all adults who are probably over 55..........we have come here to enjoy the life we have all dremed of. Golf, Tennis, Swimming, Dancing, summer time with our grandchildren and activites to be enjoyed by all, over 1,000 different organizations that a person can belong to. There are all sorts of medical facilities, we are looking to enjoy our golden years.
If the prediction is correct 2016 all lots and homes will be sold..............but OMG.......resales will be there for the public to see, bid, and purchase. I personally see the real estate value going up on our purchases.
Think POSITIVE..............many people from all walks of life to keep The Villages as a # 1 Retirement area to live in!
Thanks for reading my comments :-)

And you are so right. It is only a few that see The Villages glass as half full. God only knows why some wish to pee in our wheaties. We have been here almost 4 years and our only regret is that we did not come quicker. Like most VILLAGERS, we are in the last chapters of our life and I refuse to let the depression of the few put a damper on what I see as the best days I have and they are in this wonderful place. Please enjoy and pay no attention to the nay Sayers.

[njbchbum]

sorry to see pennbf bail on the thread without having answered questions some of us posed. guess we'll never know their definition of 'mediocre' for one. oh, well.

[rubicon]

Oh you villagers of little faith I Carnac the Magnificent can answer "when The Village's outgrow the population at some time in the future what will happen? Ed hand me the envelope. Carnac predicts there will be ample available tee times, ample rec centers, ample grocery stores, ample restaurants,

Now the truth of it is no one knows because no one on this thread has sufficient data to make that determination. such as what is the composite of the population as to age, status, health, morbidity, etc. I know there are people who do not live in The Villages but have bought a number of homes to rent out and renters motivations and concerns regarding The Villages are different than full time or seasonal resident owners.

I doubt one can say the past is prologue to the future of The Villages but based on its history to date The Villages continues to grow and thrive

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Oh you villagers of little faith I Carnac the Magnificent can answer "when The Village's outgrow the population at some time in the future what will happen? Ed hand me the envelope. Carnac predicts there will be ample available tee times, ample rec centers, ample grocery stores, ample restaurants,

Now the truth of it is no one knows because no one on this thread has sufficient data to make that determination. such as what is the composite of the population as to age, status, health, morbidity, etc. I know there are people who do not live in The Villages but have bought a number of homes to rent out and renters motivations and concerns regarding The Villages are different than full time or seasonal resident owners.

I doubt one can say the past is prologue to the future of The Villages but based on its history to date The Villages continues to grow and thrive

I wanted just to bump this post as, what could be added. Thank you for saying what I want to say, without the talent to do so.

[Bogie Shooter]

OP never came back and defended the wild statements that he made in the first post. If you are going to rattle the bushes, you have to come back and defend the hearsay that was posted.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by PennBF

Has anyone considered when The Village's outgrow the population at some point in the future what will happen? How will the potential problems be handled when TV just gets too big? As an example the key government construction is based on the Developers appointments/controls. I don't think anyone questions this. There is little question that at some point there will be a greater demand for a more basic form of a Democratic government. You can see some of the problems starting to pop up. The historic entertainment practices have changed, (e.g. no support for a majority of parades, the entertainment at the squares has become less in talents.) It is also noted that landscaping is not as good as it was and there are a lot more weeds and uncut bushes, etc).It does not take a lot to observe these changes. This may mean there are problems with the current growth and it will just get worse. The question is has anyone thought about this and what if anything is being done to put together plans for the future. Not planning for the future is really outrages as we will get into a reactive mod as opposed to a "proactive mod". Does anyone really think you can act the same way when the growth goes from 10,000 to over 100,000 without a
real form of a democracy? Just think this is something that should be debated.

I think we do have a real form of democracy. We get to vote for someone who will supervise our district. Before the voting starts, each candidate is covered by the Daily Sun. Each one describes their philosophy and tells what they hope to accomplish if they win. What's wrong with that?

[PennBF]

I know I said I was bowing out and I am but not before one last statement. There is no question The Villages are the best place in the world to retire. We have already convinced at least 4 other people to move here. There is no question it has almost everything anyone would want and it's the results of creative thoughts of Mr. Swartz and his sweat and tears that put it here. Having said this it does not mean it is an excuse to go "brain dead" and allow dementia to sneak up because you stopped using your brain. Thinking about the future and how to keep what is already here is not a threat but rather an opportunity. Unfortunately some go overboard being afraid of the future and go into the fetal position when it is mentioned. Given that it is hard to communicate when there is fear of the future I have elected to bow out of the discussion and continue to think and use the mind for what it is meant to be.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by PennBF

Having said this it does not mean it is an excuse to go "brain dead" and allow dementia to sneak up because you stopped using your brain. Thinking about the future and how to keep what is already here is not a threat but rather an opportunity. Unfortunately some go overboard being afraid of the future and go into the fetal position when it is mentioned.

Just because people don't agree with your point of view, it does not mean they are brain dead. I fear you have just insulted a lot of really fine people.

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Just because people don't agree with your point of view, it does not mean they are brain dead. I fear you have just insulted a lot of really fine people.

Thank you Bare --- how very rude of this person to think that his opinion is the only correct way of looking at things ................ not very democratic for someone looking for democracy, and it certainly does not encourage debate! It's more like "my way or the highway" type of thinking which never goes over too well with smart women.

[PennBF]

The intent was to say that all should never stop using their brain. If that is an insult I apologize. I guess it is just hard to communicate at times.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by PennBF

The intent was to say that all should never stop using their brain. If that is an insult I apologize. I guess it is just hard to communicate at times.

Hi penn.
Please read this post by Rubicon. This is so very clear.

"Now the truth of it is no one knows because no one on this thread has sufficient data to make that determination. such as what is the composite of the population as to age, status, health, morbidity, etc. I know there are people who do not live in The Villages but have bought a number of homes to rent out and renters motivations and concerns regarding The Villages are different than full time or seasonal resident owners.

I doubt one can say the past is prologue to the future of The Villages but based on its history to date The Villages continues to grow and thrive."

[graciegirl]

Penn.

I could not quite understand from your posts WHAT you were worried about and WHAT might be done to allay your worries? How can we plan if we don't know what to plan for. I like the CDD way of running things. We all knew when we moved here it was not a place where we could have input as to how things are run.

You mentioned the parades and you mentioned the plantings not being trimmed properly.

If the developer leaves us, we will then have cause to worry.

Most of us in our life cycle are in the second half, some the fourth quarter and a few are rounding third and heading home.

Many would like to leave a little something for the kids and some hope their last dollar and their last breath is spent at the same time.

I hate to put a time amount on this...but for the foreseeable future, things appear to be o.k. If we were twenty something, than by glory we should be worried about what was gonna happen twenty, thirty years down the road.