[photo1902]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Looked at that story. As described, I think the operation borders on entrapment. Beyond that, did you see the pix of the women who wanted to get paid for sex? Enough said, one picture is worth a thousand words

Entrapment? No. Unattractive? Yes.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Bonny

How could you tell it was a serious phone call ?

If a guy is on the phone while a good-looking girl is hanging all over him, it must be a very serious phone call.

Originally Posted by Bonny

And how could you determine it was a drug deal ?

Well, it didn't look like he was calling his stockbroker.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

I don't think the OP is alone in his thinking. Based on what I've read here many people conceal carry. My thinking that's way overboard, this isn't Dodge City 1883 ! Maybe a can of mace but not a freaking weapon [emoji379]... To each his own in how their world is perceived I guess.

I don't think CCW is limited to SS, it probably happens as frequently at LSL or Brownwood.
I even read that some residents carry concealed at mail stations!

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by VApeople

We do not go to SS much because we have seen some shady characters hanging out in the parking lots and that is where the guy was killed by a group of thugs a few weeks ago.

However, after watching Joey Dee and the Starlights at Brownwood on Saturday, we very much want to see them at SS next week. In your opinion, where is the safest place to park our car?

Look up Valet Parking in various threads here about a year ago.

See how much respect the naysayers showed for handicapped and elderly people, theater goers who are dressed up and don't want to get rain soaked, and single/widowed women who don't want to risk getting beaten/raped. The naysayers wouldn't pay money for help like that, so it had to be shot down here.

The service was eventually discontinued at SS. The contracted company from Orlando who operated it is not the only way to do valet service.

There were also reasonable suggestions for having extended-seating golf cart shuttles from parking lots to the square and The Sharon, like the hospital has. But again, that wasn't an original idea of those who know everything here, so it, too, was shot down.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

See how much respect the naysayers showed for handicapped and elderly people, theater goers who are dressed up don't want to get rain soaked, and single/widowed women who don't want to risk getting beaten/raped. The naysayers wouldn't pay money for help like that, so it had to be shot down here.

I thought Valet Parking was a good idea.
I don't think the failure of Valet Parking had anything to do with the opinions of naysayers on TOTV.
Or perhaps I misunderstood your post.

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I don't think the failure of Valet Parking had anything to do with the opinions of naysayers on TOTV.
Or perhaps I misunderstood your post.

As I said, "see how much respect naysayers here showed" for the people who were in favor of it.

[graciegirl]

Here, you can review, class.
Valet Parking

[circletrack]

Originally Posted by VApeople

We do not go to SS much because we have seen some shady characters hanging out in the parking lots and that is where the guy was killed by a group of thugs a few weeks ago.

However, after watching Joey Dee and the Starlights at Brownwood on Saturday, we very much want to see them at SS next week. In your opinion, where is the safest place to park our car?

There have been several groups of young adults in that area of Spanish Springs because they are playing that Pokemon Go game on their phones. The game is based on map locations and landmarks.

One guy making a "serious" phone call doesn't make everyone in the area and not over 55 a thug.

I'm much more concerned about folks leaving the square intoxicated than I am packs of teens and young adults staring at their phones.

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by John_W

You're right about the proximity to 441/27, that's why so many were not happy with the placement of Brownwood so close to Wildwood. However, you have to make the merchants happy, and if you go into Gator's Dockside at Brownwood at lunch time you'll see why. That place gets packed and they aren't villagers, a lot of workers from Wildwood and the surrounding area come in.

The incident you mentioned about being robbed at SS Gator's, I can only find that happening once. It was in 2013 and was a midnight. So it was really an isolated incident and was three hours after the music at the square shuts down. I can't post a link to the online newspaper, so here is the article.

At 11:57 p.m. Dec. 1, 2013 a man walked onto the outdoor bar area, walked past the victims, left the outdoor bar area and then approached the victims through the archway from the sidewalk, according to Lady Lake Police.

The man then brandished a small black semi-auto pistol and demanded the victims give him their money. The suspect then left the area on foot and got into the passenger side of an early 2000s silver Lincoln LS and fled the area.

The suspect is a white male 25-30 years old, approximately 6 feet tall, with a thin build, according to Lady Lake Police. The suspect was wearing blue jeans, a black-and-red basketball jersey and a ball cap.

Detectives have reviewed video surveillance footage. A sketch of the suspect has been released.

Anyone with information should contact Detective Ronald Michaud or Detective Butch Perdue at 751-1542.

What I would more concerned about if I were someone who stayed out that late would be the fights that occur in and around Margarita Republic. Again, it's a place that stays open until 2am. Most villagers this is beyond their bedtime, so they are inviting outsiders with such late hours.

Golf carts stolen, that's a problem that is mainly in the SS area, the last stolen were parked alongside the Rialto Theater on Alonzo Ave. The second cart stolen was on Alverez Ave., which runs past TooJays. My suggestion is don't take your cart there, we drive our car but that's because it's far, especially when driving back home in the dark. If I did drive a cart to SS regularly, I would use something like the club that we use on the car. Especially one that locks the steering wheel and the gas pedal. This one is available on eBay for $16 and free shipping.



Steering Wheel Lock to Pedal Anti Theft Car Truck Security Auto Universal Red | eBay

I hate to destroy your sense of security, but I can defeat that device in under ten seconds. So can auto thieves who have been doing so for years. Such devices are simply to keep the honest away from temptation.

As we all know, the ignition switch on most golf carts can be defeated very quickly also. A somewhat effective device is to have a hidden switch that prevents a circuit from the ignition switch from being completed. Even that can be found if there is ample time for a search, but it is more likely that the potential thief would just move on to another cart.

But, I will grant you that if your cart, with the device you advocate, is parked beside a cart without one, the unprotected cart is more likely to be taken.

[2BNTV]

The parking at MVP is for it's members and you may be denied access for some special events as I have seen their staff rope off access.

I agree it is safe, as I have going there for three years.

The OP is going to get a wrong impression TV is filled with a lot of crime, by people posting horror stories.

The crime rate in TV is very low. It is a very safe place.

[Allegiance]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

The parking at MVP is for it's members and you may be denied access for some special events as I have seen their staff rope off access.

I agree it is safe, as I have going there for three years.

The OP is going to get a wrong impression TV is filled with a lot of crime, by people posting horror stories.

The crime rate in TV is very low. It is a very safe place.

I could be wrong, but it seems like the police usually arrest the criminals, even the low level crimes. They do an outstanding job. In the major cities they would not even use manpower on a shoplifting, here they look at videotape etc. Law and order is necessary for a civil society. Where did I hear that before?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I don't think CCW is limited to SS, it probably happens as frequently at LSL or Brownwood.
I even read that some residents carry concealed at mail stations!

It's illegal to carry inside of a post office. I'm not sure that that applies to mail stations.

As far as where people carry, it's all over. A hand gun is a defensive weapon that one carries in case of an emergency. An emergency can happen anywhere. To me, it's that same as wearing a seat belt. You don't decide to not wear your seatbelt thinking that you're not going to get into an accident. You know that an accident can happen anywhere. If a person decides to carry, they should carry everywhere that it's permitted in order to protect themselves and those around them. Do you think that mail stations are completely safe and that there is zero chance of being attacked there?

Some people decide that carrying a gun is not for them. That's fine, we all have a right to make that choice. if something happens that requires the use to lethal force to save a life, those people would be thankful if someone in the area chose to carry and was able to defend them.

[2BNTV]

Originally Posted by Allegiance

I could be wrong, but it seems like the police usually arrest the criminals, even the low level crimes. They do an outstanding job. In the major cities they would not even use manpower on a shoplifting, here they look at videotape etc. Law and order is necessary for a civil society. Where did I hear that before?

I agree with the little crime that is committed in TV, the police do a great job at apprehending the perps. I've seen on TOTV, when three break-ins happen, some people get in a flutter, about the amount of crime.

Although, I feel sorry for the people who had their homes broken into and their sense of being, violated, I also keep in mind there are about 57,000 homes, (approximately), in TV. To me, that is still very low crime rate for a population of 114,300 and still counting. IMHO

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

It seems everyone seems to have forgotten all the diners who were robbed @ gunpoint, while sitting @ the outside dining area of Gators- a perp walked alongside them & cleaned them out.

The proximity to 441/27 makes it a prime hunting ground--numerous cars have been broken into and very recently 2 yes 2 golf carts have been stolen

Those diners were robbed three years ago and it was a midnight.

Numerous cars? How many is numerous?

Two golf carts? This is a community of 130,000 people. Try to remember communities of that size where you came from. I know that most of the small cities of that size in Massachusetts were hotbeds of crime. We have one of the lowest crime rates in America for a community of this size.

No matter where you live, crime is going to happen. In larger communities there is bound to be more crime and usually a higher crime rate.

The Villages is about as safe as it gets.That includes Spanish Springs and every other area. It's testament to it's safety that only two golf carts were stolen in the past month.

If there were golf carts in a place like Brockton, MA there would be two stolen every day.

[Chatbrat]

By the way a woman was robbed @ gunpoint at a mailbox location last year

I never carry in a gun free zone and I avoid those areas like the plague