[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Not interested in cruises, so you can take all you wish. Did you get your vaccination for Legionnaires yet?

Nobody has, but if one becomes available maybe they can add it to the Orwellian vaccine passport.

[yanksansky]

You ask what are they waiting for? Some maybe anti Vax! Some may have fear over serious side affects. Some elderly may not know how to navigate the registration process. I am willing to help anyone register here in The Wildwood Villages area.

[Byte1]

Mass hysteria at it's finest. So many needy people that insist that the gov. protect them, instead of being able/responsible for themselves. Use some common sense and protect yourself from the boogieman. If you do not get the vaccination, then don't expect me to protect you. You have already decided and have to reap the results one way or the other. It's your decision and should NOT be the gov's. Wear a mask or don't wear one. It will have absolutely no effect on me. I have my vaccination, but doubt if I would have become infected anyway. That is my decision and the gov did not make it for me. I have no intention of wearing a mask now, other than if I wish to shop at a place where a mask is requested. And then, I wear it below my nose. If that offends you, cry me a river. If you don't like it, stay a safe distance away, preferably at your home. My children and grandkids have had the virus and shrugged it off in a couple of days or so. They can visit me and I have no fear of infection whatsoever. Want to disagree, that is your prerogative.
The experts I am listening to right now, state that once vaccinated you cannot pass on the virus, period. According to them (whether right or wrong) once the virus enters your system, it is destroyed so you cannot pass it on. Like I have said before, I am not an expert. But, I refuse to listen to gov experts that are nothing more than political hacks. Regardless of credentials, I don't trust them. That is my opinion. So, go on your cruise and feel safe because someone mandates proof of vaccination. But, remember it was the cruise that was one of the first points of infection into the U.S. And remember, many cruises come back to port with a whole ship full of sick folks. There are other diseases out there besides Corona. Same goes with airlines and flying. If you are scared, stay at home. Quit expecting others to conform to your fears.

[Juliebeech]

I urge all of you to read an article by World renown vaccine specialist, Geert Vanden Bossche. He gave a groundbreaking interview this week risking his reputation and his career by bravely speaking out against administration of #Covid19 vaccines.

[Boffin]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

I disagree and would love to see mandatory vaccinations for cruises and flying. Its nothing new. Been going on for decades. Your kids can NOT attend school without having certain vaccinations. Why is that good for kids but not good for you to get vaccinated during a pandemic where hundreds of thousands have died?? There is a difference between divulging an illness and making vaccines mandatory to fly. HIV statement is totally unrelated. Would you sit next to someone on a plane who is coughing n sneezing all over without using a tissue?? NO. So, why would you feel its ok to sit next to someone who may be carrying a fatal virus?? Think about it!!

Concerns about vaccine passports:

Passports could make the inequities that have been highlighted throughout the pandemic even worse. Poor people and people of color have endured an outsize share of the suffering from the coronavirus and are also being vaccinated at a lower rate than wealthy white people. Rewarding those who have been vaccinated would invariably mean punishing others who have been denied access to vaccines by an unfair system, critics argue. Others say medically vulnerable people who can’t get the vaccine for health reasons would be left out entirely.

Passports could further politicize the vaccine rollout and make vaccine hesitancy even worse among people who generally distrust the government.

Privacy, how private would a digital vaccination database be and could the U.S. even put together the data needed to build one in the first place.

[Villages Kahuna]

Maybe not. Surveys seem to show that a high percentage of one political party are refusing to be vaccinated, enough to prevent achieving a high enough percentage of vaccinations to achieve herd immunity. I can’t figure out why politics should effect medical decisions, but there’s a lot of our national politics that I don’t understand these days.

My wife and I got the Pfizer vaccine and still use masks and practice social distancing. We feel personally safe and have high confidence that we won’t pass any virus on to others.

[jimlambert]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Maybe the anti vaxxers can take a page from the smokers. Just get used to your options becoming limited.

. Well said!

[terrild53]

Originally Posted by charmed59

I see in Sumter county the percent of seniors vaccinated for COVID is leveling out at just over 60%. If we need 75% to hit herd immunity we’d need over 90% of those under 65 to be vaccinated, which seems unlikely.

Is there some number of seniors that intend to get vaccinated but haven’t yet? If so, what are they waiting for? I’m hopeful seeing the Villages Health is now inoculating their members.

Here’s the way I look at Covid: Here is a very contagious virus that has killed thousands upon thousands all over the world. It is unlike any virus we have seen in our lifetimes, therefore, it has been a “learn-as-you-go” medical nightmare, just as the Spanish Flu was a century ago, and HIV and Ebola. Medical Specialists and Scientists have done their best to figure out what to do to contain Covid and to develop a vaccine to reduce the risk of contracting it. If people don’t want the vaccine because they are against vaccinations or are paranoid & worried about microchips being implanted with the vaccines or believe it’s against their political agenda or believe Covid is a cold virus, well they aren’t going to get the vaccine. That is their prerogative. Medical researchers know what they are talking about with regards to achieving herd immunity but it won’t be happening anytime soon, at least I don’t think so. It’s going to take a couple years because of people not wanting the vaccine. I choose to wear a mask where requested and do the distancing thing etc.
And as for “Vaccine Passports,” it does not phase me at all to have proof of vaccination for travel. Big deal, so you show you had a vaccination to hopefully reduce risk of transmission to others in the country or world. My independence is not affected by showing proof of having a vaccination, no more than parents have to show proof of their kids having vaccinations to enter school.....it’s so deadly diseases don’t rear their heads again and kill people. Like Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Polio, etc. In my mind it’s common sense, but then I was a medical provider for 33 years so think about these things differently I guess. My opinion only.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by charmed59

I see in Sumter county the percent of seniors vaccinated for COVID is leveling out at just over 60%. If we need 75% to hit herd immunity we’d need over 90% of those under 65 to be vaccinated, which seems unlikely.

Is there some number of seniors that intend to get vaccinated but haven’t yet? If so, what are they waiting for? I’m hopeful seeing the Villages Health is now inoculating their members.

You can't go JUST by Sumter Co. percentages. You have to go by nationwide % because Sumter Co. does not have a virus-proof bubble over it. And herd immunity may not EVER happen nationwide due to the anti-vaxxers. That is why some people say that masks and social distancing will be with us for many years.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

The ignorance around the shot (not a vaccine) is truly amazing to me. Getting the shot does nothing to "reduce the probability of being infected". Whenever you are exposed to the virus (any virus), you are infected. The only hope of any shot (not a vaccine) is to have your body properly defend against it.

Having taken the shot (not a vaccine) is not like "Scotty - shields up". It does nothing to prevent you from inhaling the virus or getting it while picking your nose after coming in contact with it.

Take note: Over time ... EVERYONE will become infected with the virus ... PERIOD. The only thing a shot (not a vaccine) or your innate immune system (my preference) can do is respond to that infection. That RESPONSE is what determines if you get "sick". Lack of getting sick does not mean you have not been "infected".

A quiet controlled response means you won't even know you got infected (i.e. you don't get sick). A wild out-of-control response means you get sick from the infection (and then recover ... or not).

But, don't harbor any illusion that you will never get the virus because you got the shot (not a vaccine). That is inevitable. Everyone will get infected ... EVERYONE.

I don't think so.

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Mass hysteria at it's finest. So many needy people that insist that the gov. protect them, instead of being able/responsible for themselves. Use some common sense and protect yourself from the boogieman. If you do not get the vaccination, then don't expect me to protect you. You have already decided and have to reap the results one way or the other. It's your decision and should NOT be the gov's. Wear a mask or don't wear one. It will have absolutely no effect on me. I have my vaccination, but doubt if I would have become infected anyway. That is my decision and the gov did not make it for me. I have no intention of wearing a mask now, other than if I wish to shop at a place where a mask is requested. And then, I wear it below my nose. If that offends you, cry me a river. If you don't like it, stay a safe distance away, preferably at your home. My children and grandkids have had the virus and shrugged it off in a couple of days or so. They can visit me and I have no fear of infection whatsoever. Want to disagree, that is your prerogative.
The experts I am listening to right now, state that once vaccinated you cannot pass on the virus, period. According to them (whether right or wrong) once the virus enters your system, it is destroyed so you cannot pass it on. Like I have said before, I am not an expert. But, I refuse to listen to gov experts that are nothing more than political hacks. Regardless of credentials, I don't trust them. That is my opinion. So, go on your cruise and feel safe because someone mandates proof of vaccination. But, remember it was the cruise that was one of the first points of infection into the U.S. And remember, many cruises come back to port with a whole ship full of sick folks. There are other diseases out there besides Corona. Same goes with airlines and flying. If you are scared, stay at home. Quit expecting others to conform to your fears.

Just so you know, my son and his wife are living proof that you can be reinfected after recovering from COVID. Apparently the reinfection was from one of the new strains. So don't believe that your kids and grandkids cannot be reinfected as well. (In the case of my kids, the reinfection, at least so far, does not seem as serious as the first bout was, but it is still bad-- with my daughter-in-law completely losing her sense of taste and smell.)

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Actually, I know businesses were following the lead of the state. My company required a quarantine or a negative test before returning to work from out of state trips. I did the drive up testing on 441 the day before I got on the plane and gave my company the results Monday morning to avoid a quarantine period.

I know a handful of other people at different companies that had similar policies. One needed a negative test and 72 hours of no symptoms after the test.

New York was also enforcing it to varying levels. Had friends who live just over the NY/NJ border near me who got a knock on the door 5 days after coming back from FL.

For the most part there was no real enforcement from the state of NJ as far as I know.

Businesses may have had their own rules, but states that claimed that a negative test result or quarantine was required, were not enforcing anything.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Swoop

That’s just lip service, just like the states that had “quarantine” requirements. There was zero enforcement of those “requirements”...

It isn't lip service to board a Royal Caribbean cruise ship if you are over the age of 18, you must show proof of vaccination. Of course RCCL is not home porting in the US yet but they are beginning cruises in June from ports other than the US. If anyone loves to cruise and is an anti-vaxxer, they will not set sail on a cruise ship at this point and time.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by lkagele

Definition of vaccine
: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious disease:
a: an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated (see ATTENUATED sense 2) pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products (such as a protein or toxin)
b: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)

I would bet money that this definition and information regarding the mRNA vaccines will fall on deaf ears with oneclickplus. This poster has been singing this tune for a while now. No changing his/her mind about it.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by popbaby2

No not afraid for myself. But afraid i may unknowingly pass it on to someone who cannot get vaccine due to compromised immunity system (like my daughter). It may be 99% survive able, but not for older people. And the ongoing side effects could be debilitating.

DONT BE SELFISH! GET A VACCINE FOR THE GOOD of the country.

I just read an article today about the CEO of Texas Roadhouse. He committed suicide because of long haul effects of Covid.