[EdV]

I have come up with a potential plan to share with you if you’re willing to put the time into it. Here it is:

Go to google earth (or whatever mapping software you have) and type in this address “Bowersox Dr. Lady Lake, FL”.

To the left of Bowersox Dr. is an empty lot that is an unpaved street continuance of Bowersox under the control of the town of Lady Lake. To the left of that you will see a rather large (24 acre) lot and residence that is owned by Mr. Ron Brown, the original owner of much of the land around here. And then to the left of that is Lowes.

Now before I say anything else, do not, repeat, DO NOT starting using this entrance because you’ll be trespassing across his residential property and he is the last person you want to pi$$ of at this point. Remember he was instrumental in getting approval for a paved path through the new HarborChase complex aand across his commercial property.

Instead work with Elaine Dreidame of the POA to get a meeting with HarborChase of Villages Crossing. The objective would be to see if Mr. Brown would be willing to allow temporary golf cart access through the lower part of his property until the wall issue is somehow resolved.

Remember the Mr. Brown sold the land to Harbor Chase and worked with them to get a paved path approved by the town. So if Gary Morse built the Concrete Curtain to put the screws them, this might be a great way to stick him back.

Also, from the information in the Lady Lake Land Records, it appears that this little plot of land next to Bowersox is not part of Orange Blossoms Hills and is therefore not subject to their deed restrictions that might otherwise preclude using this property for a cart path.

Comments and discussions are encouraged but please keep this thread limited to discussing this potential workaround and not the wall itself.

[wendyquat]

Originally Posted by EdV

I have come up with a potential plan to share with you if you’re willing to put the time into it. Here it is:

Go to google earth (or whatever mapping software you have) and type in this address “Bowersox Dr. Lady Lake, FL” To the left of Bowersox Dr. is an empty lot that is owned by Mr. Ron Brown, the original owner of much of the land around here. Then in the large vacant area to the left of that lot you will see a rather large residence. That’s his home. And to the left of that is Lowes.

Now before I say anything else, do not, repeat, DO NOT starting using this entrance because you’ll be trespassing across his residential property and he is the last person you want to pi$$ of at this point. Remember he was instrumental in getting approval for a paved path through the new HarborChase complex aand across his commercial property.


Instead work with Elaine Dreidame of the POA to get a meeting with HarborChase of Villages Crossing. The objective would be to see if Mr. Brown would be willing to allow temporary golf cart access through the lower part of his property until the wall issue is somehow resolved.

Remember the Mr. Brown sold the land to Harbor Chase and worked with them to get a paved path approved by the town. So if Gary Morse built the Concrete Curtain to put the screws them, this might be a great way to stick him back.

Also, from the information in the Lady Lake Land Records, it appears that this little plot of land next to Bowersox is not part of Orange Blossoms Hills and is therefore not subject to their deed restrictions that might otherwise preclude using this property for a cart path.

Comments and discussions are encouraged but please keep this thread limited to discussing this potential workaround and not the wall itself.

Love your thinking!

[BettyCrocked]

I've found the property you are talking about. Can you describe how you get from the berlin wall onto his property? Is it the vacant lot on W. Schwartz at the western end of Bowersox?

[LndLocked]

Ed,

Have you found out who owns the empty lot at the intersection of Bowersox & W. Schwartz?

I also assume that the TV property line is along that row of trees at the back of the houses on W. Schwartz ..... what would keep "The Developer" from denying access or closing it down the way it was done on Paradise Dr?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by BettyCrocked

I've found the property you are talking about. Can you describe how you get from the berlin wall onto his property? Is it the vacant lot on W. Schwartz at the western end of Bowersox?

If you follow the paths on the other side of the lot on West Schwartz at the western end of Bowersox, you'll come to Lowe's. You don't actually have to go anywhere near the Berlin wall to get there, but if you want to get to the medical center, you'd just take the dirt road from Lowe's.

That vacant lot, by the way is 1753 West Schwartz Blvd. Isn't the lot owned by the Villages?

[LndLocked]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

If you follow the paths on the other side of the lot on West Schwartz at the western end of Bowersox, you'll come to Lowe's. You don't actually have to go anywhere near the Berlin wall to get there, but if you want to get to the medical center, you'd just take the dirt road from Lowe's.

That vacant lot, by the way is 1753 West Schwartz Blvd. Isn't the lot owned by the Villages?

if it is ..... this possible workaround just got worked.

[jkpender]

Thanks EdV for the info.

[EdV]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

That vacant lot, by the way is 1753 West Schwartz Blvd. Isn't the lot owned by the Villages?

No Winston, that's the lot just north of Mr. Browns lot.

When he (or his family) sold the Orange Blossom land to Schwartz, they were wise enough to provide for a private unencumbered entrance to the complex.

Please, stay with me on this, it's the most immediate option for the time being until it is proved unworkable.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by EdV

No Winston, that's the lot just north of Mr. Browns lot.

When he (or his family) sold the Orange Blossom land to Schwartz, they were wise enough to provide for a private unencumbered entrance to the complex.

Please, stay with me on this, it's the most immediate option for the time being until it is proved unworkable.

that is so cool! go mr. brown! and thank you ed for your assistance. i do hope folks take your advice on securing appropriate cooperation.

[bkcunningham1]

Originally Posted by EdV

I have come up with a potential plan to share with you if you’re willing to put the time into it. Here it is:

Go to google earth (or whatever mapping software you have) and type in this address “Bowersox Dr. Lady Lake, FL” To the left of Bowersox Dr. is an empty lot that is owned by Mr. Ron Brown, the original owner of much of the land around here. Then in the large vacant area to the left of that lot you will see a rather large residence. That’s his home. And to the left of that is Lowes.

Now before I say anything else, do not, repeat, DO NOT starting using this entrance because you’ll be trespassing across his residential property and he is the last person you want to pi$$ of at this point. Remember he was instrumental in getting approval for a paved path through the new HarborChase complex aand across his commercial property.

Instead work with Elaine Dreidame of the POA to get a meeting with HarborChase of Villages Crossing. The objective would be to see if Mr. Brown would be willing to allow temporary golf cart access through the lower part of his property until the wall issue is somehow resolved.

Remember the Mr. Brown sold the land to Harbor Chase and worked with them to get a paved path approved by the town. So if Gary Morse built the Concrete Curtain to put the screws them, this might be a great way to stick him back.

Also, from the information in the Lady Lake Land Records, it appears that this little plot of land next to Bowersox is not part of Orange Blossoms Hills and is therefore not subject to their deed restrictions that might otherwise preclude using this property for a cart path.

Comments and discussions are encouraged but please keep this thread limited to discussing this potential workaround and not the wall itself.

Ed, I've called Elaine and left two messages on her answering machine and can't get her to return a phone call.

[Bizdoc]

EdV
I salute you sir. Great solution.

[buggyone]

If Mr. Brown does allow a temporary golf path to be built on his property, doesn't he assume liability for accidents or injuries on it? I would think his attorneys would advise against such a project.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by buggyone

If Mr. Brown does allow a temporary golf path to be built on his property, doesn't he assume liability for accidents or injuries on it? I would think his attorneys would advise against such a project.

does he not have that liability now with the existing dirt trail?

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

does he not have that liability now with the existing dirt trail?

I have no idea. The liability issues are always at the forefront of most decisions. That was just a thought.

[Russ_Boston]

I'm sure the whole 'great wall' issue has to do with liability somewhere. Someone must have gotten sued so Morse had no choice but to block the 'invite' onto someone else's property. It would be the same for any property owner over there. The core problem is always money somehow.