[justjim]

If you have ever been on an Alaska Cruise you can see with your own eyes that "things" are melting up there. You can call it whatever you want but it's happening---the ice is melting at a rapid rate.

Will it reverse itself? I'm not a scientist but the majority of experts are concerned. If what is currently happening up there continues----our planet earth will need to do something about it----hopefully it won't be too late. Enough said.

[buggyone]

Personally, I would not believe one word printed in the Sun Journal of New Bern.

Of course, everyone can believe whatever paper their side is on climate change.

Go for the scientific proof and you will be right.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I agree with a lot of what you are saying, Bucco. My problem is not knowing how to determine if that which I read is scientific or political.

As with many, and getting to be most issues, I am finding my self researching the author and then all of his references, but on this issue, I just stopped. This is more of the "p" word than almost anything right now and I , like you, have no idea of whom to trust.

There are "scientific" studies that come down on both sides of this issue

[eweissenbach]

I don't rely on any politician or any study funded by special interests, or the opinion of anyone with a bias such as Fox News or MSNBC etc. I have been to Glacier N.P. where the "glaciers" are clearly disappearing. I have been to Alaska where the ice is clearly receding and I have seen pictures of ice in the arctic which has diminished drastically. We can wait until Manhattan and Miami are under water, or we can begin taking common sense action before we saddle future generations with the consequences. Corporate Interests will always refute science when the fix costs them money. Our rivers throughout this country have been saved from pollution from companies and cities dumping raw and industrial waste in the watershed with regulations that they fought tooth and nail. The same sort of action will be required to reverse some of this problem, but they and their minions will fight it with every breath they take and every cent they can spare. This isn't a political issue, it is a scientific issue that politicians have been well paid to fight.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

I don't rely on any politician or any study funded by special interests, or the opinion of anyone with a bias such as Fox News or MSNBC etc. I have been to Glacier N.P. where the "glaciers" are clearly disappearing. I have been to Alaska where the ice is clearly receding and I have seen pictures of ice in the arctic which has diminished drastically. We can wait until Manhattan and Miami are under water, or we can begin taking common sense action before we saddle future generations with the consequences. Corporate Interests will always refute science when the fix costs them money. Our rivers throughout this country have been saved from pollution from companies and cities dumping raw and industrial waste in the watershed with regulations that they fought tooth and nail. The same sort of action will be required to reverse some of this problem, but they and their minions will fight it with every breath they take and every cent they can spare. This isn't a political issue, it is a scientific issue that politicians have been well paid to fight.

I am not sure that ANYONE thinks that climate change does not exist !

It is the degree to which it exists which is in question. I can come up with studies on both sides of the issue on the severity and THAT is where the political money is polluting the discussion.

Today in Forbes is an editorial claiming while there is climate change the affects are not what claimed to be.......and also today there is a Billionaire announcing he will finance hard hitting attack ads to advance the other side.

The politicians had muddied this so very badly....I spent two years in the Aleutian islands in the very early 60's and saw some of what you reference which has since reversed. THAT is not to counter your statements, but I honestly think this will be answered with the money...not the facts, whatever they are.

the two articles is site...

Let's Be Very Clear Mr. Kerry: No Scientific Evidence Of 'Dangerous' Human Climate Influence Exists - Forbes

Billionaire Targets '14 Races in Climate Change Fight | RealClearPolitics


PS....I would be very excited if you could route me to one of those studies not funded by a special interest group and that is not sarcasm because I have looked for one and can not find any.

[billethkid]

like so many other issues facing this country today, we will have to wait until some other entity/country that can afford it to do anything about it.....regardless which direction reality should take it.

[NoMoSno]

Climate has been changing since Earths beginning.
Hot...Cold...Hot...Cold...We will adjust.
Aren't we supposed going into the next ice age?
Just glad I'm in central FL, not Northern MI.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

I love all TOTV posters, but as all are created equal, the grey matter was not distributed equal.

Yes, you make a persuasive case

[gomoho]

So how does anyone know this hasn't happened previously and we are simply in a cycle that Mother Earth goes through? Like I said before do what you can to be a friend of the earth, but use common sense.

[BS Beef]

If this isn't a political issue why is it no longer called "Global Warming" and is now referred to as "Climate Change"?

I just find it interesting that some insist it's not a political issue but then want to put down others for watching a news channel they consider to be a political hack for one of the parties. Because you watch one channel or the other doesn't automatically make you neutral and able to see issues through an unfiltered lens.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by Bucco

PS....I would be very excited if you could route me to one of those studies not funded by a special interest group and that is not sarcasm because I have looked for one and can not find any.

Global Warming -- Research Issues

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Global Warming -- Research Issues

Thank you...time to read

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Global Warming -- Research Issues

This appears to be a great site. I read through it quickly and need to more digest some of the details but seems very comprehensive and non political.

This read will lead me to what the plan is to fight this...I know the Supreme court will rule, NOT ON WHAT TO DO, but HOW whatever might be done. But I need to get more information on this.....it is not simple...not as clear as many make it but this site I would recommend to anyone who has a serious, non political interest in the issue. It seems to serve that purpose for sure !

Thanks again

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

I don't see anyone saying climate change is not happening. I certainly believe it is. I just doubt that any scientist can accurately predict it. And the blonde bimbos only parrot from a teleprompter, they don't forecast the weather, they use many meteorologists to do that for them. Part of the same scientific community that project global warming.

My disagreement comes from mans impact on the cause and mans ability to change the direction. I don't believe we are causing it and I don't believe we can change it. That is very different than doubting it is happening.

This earth had global warming and ice ages in many cycles long before man ever burned a single lump of coal. And it will have them after we are long gone. I will spend my cycles on something I can impact and will make a difference like water quality. Not tilt at windmills on something I can't change.

Climate change is happening. The earth is going through a cycle. I don't think we are causing it or that we can reverse it.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Global Warming -- Research Issues

Just want to bring this up again. This link supplied by EWEISSENBACH is good reading if you are truely interested in this issue. Be sure when you visit to also read the links they supply. On a positive note, on one of the links funding was restored on a VERY BI PARTISAN stage and we await the new budget for research.

It is a great jumping off link to learn more.