[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Well, Mr Bean didn't claim "some", nor did he say "1%", so the response is apropos to his claim...

Well, you and I both know, and I'm pretty sure MRS. Bean knows as well, that "side effects" are not something that affects 100% of those that take a medication, usually less than 1-2 %, unless the "side effect" is somatic, such as headache or fatigue, in which case it generally runs about 15%, which is the same rate as the placebo arm of the studies.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

to those scientists for there work on ivermectin to be used against parasitic infections only not for Covid

Sulfur was once used in the creation of black powder and then someone started using it as an antibiotic.

What was the point again?

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I very much doubt that the person who posted that was suggesting 44 million covid survivors will have chronic "heart disease". And there is no way anyone with 2 functioning neurons would interpret her comment in that fashion. But.....if only 1% had long term cardiac impairment, that's still 440,000 people.

Didn't he/she say: "There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection."

I didn't see anywhere that it was stated that SOME or a FEW or there were incidents of, etc.

I am not an expert or a professional with intimate information on the subject, but I have a few "functioning neurons" enough to read. Maybe I should have read it as a scare tactic?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Didn't he/she say: "There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection."

I didn't see anywhere that it was stated that SOME or a FEW or there were incidents of, etc.

I am not an expert or a professional with intimate information on the subject, but I have a few "functioning neurons" enough to read. Maybe I should have read it as a scare tactic?

You really have to be joking, right?

If I were to state that COVID survivors get into an auto accident 5 years after recovery, would one take that to mean every single one of 44 million survivors were going to be in a crash??? When my son was a teenager, he tried playing that same semantic game with me. It didn't work for him then, it doesn't work now. At least he grew up.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Sulfur was once used in the creation of black powder and then someone started using it as an antibiotic.

What was the point again?

the Nobel prize winners of this use and it’s not true you can google many articles and statements from quack doctors or health gurus telling people that that’s what it was for and people will take all kinds of dangerous cures for Covid but won’t take a shot mind boggling

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Sulfur was once used in the creation of black powder and then someone started using it as an antibiotic.

What was the point again?

Typical amateur/non-professional mistake----

Big difference between the element SULPHUR used in gunpowder among other things, and SULFA antibiotics. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

But just for a short teaching moment, from the NIH-------

"Researchers have finally found out how sulfa drugs—the first class of antibiotics ever discovered—work at the molecular level. The finding offers insights into designing more robust antibiotic therapies.

Sulfa antibiotics were first used in the 1930s, and they revolutionized medicine. After a few years, bacteria started to develop resistance to the drugs, and eventually penicillin replaced them as a first-line treatment. While antibiotic resistance remains a problem for this class of antibiotics, sulfa drugs are still commonly used to treat a variety of bacterial infections.

Sulfa drugs work by binding and inhibiting a specific enzyme called dihydropteroate synthase (DHPS). This enzyme is critical for the synthesis of folate, an essential nutrient. Mammals get folate from their diet, but bacteria must synthesize this vitamin. Folate synthesis requires a chemical reaction between 2 molecules, DHPP and PABA, that is catalyzed by DHPS.

Bacteria resistant to sulfa drugs often have mutations in the DHPS enzyme. These mutations occur on 2 floppy loops that sit near the enzyme's active site. Previous research had described most of the structure of DHPS, but the structure of the floppy, highly conserved loops remained elusive. Moreover, researchers didn't know how the chemical reaction occurs between DHPP and PABA."

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Typical amateur/non-professional mistake----

Big difference between the element SULPHUR used in gunpowder among other things, and SULFA antibiotics. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

But just for a short teaching moment, from the NIH-------

"Researchers have finally found out how sulfa drugs—the first class of antibiotics ever discovered—work at the molecular level. The finding offers insights into designing more robust antibiotic therapies.

Sulfa antibiotics were first used in the 1930s, and they revolutionized medicine. After a few years, bacteria started to develop resistance to the drugs, and eventually penicillin replaced them as a first-line treatment. While antibiotic resistance remains a problem for this class of antibiotics, sulfa drugs are still commonly used to treat a variety of bacterial infections.

Sulfa drugs work by binding and inhibiting a specific enzyme called dihydropteroate synthase (DHPS). This enzyme is critical for the synthesis of folate, an essential nutrient. Mammals get folate from their diet, but bacteria must synthesize this vitamin. Folate synthesis requires a chemical reaction between 2 molecules, DHPP and PABA, that is catalyzed by DHPS.

Bacteria resistant to sulfa drugs often have mutations in the DHPS enzyme. These mutations occur on 2 floppy loops that sit near the enzyme's active site. Previous research had described most of the structure of DHPS, but the structure of the floppy, highly conserved loops remained elusive. Moreover, researchers didn't know how the chemical reaction occurs between DHPP and PABA."

Apparently, you missed the point. But, thanks for the lesson anyway. I just read the cliff notes, but I have decided not to make black powder or use it for an antibiotic...........

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You really have to be joking, right?

If I were to state that COVID survivors get into an auto accident 5 years after recovery, would one take that to mean every single one of 44 million survivors were going to be in a crash??? When my son was a teenager, he tried playing that same semantic game with me. It didn't work for him then, it doesn't work now. At least he grew up.

I don't know your son, and I am relieved to know that he grew up.
You seem to be acquainted with stipulating "semantics" on many topics so I presumed that my use was permitted. Now that I know better, I will bow to those that are All Knowing.

Have a great day
I still consider the statement as "scare tactics" since there was no limiting terms used such as "some, instances, percentage, etc."

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Typical amateur/non-professional mistake----

Big difference between the element SULPHUR used in gunpowder among other things, and SULFA antibiotics. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

But just for a short teaching moment, from the NIH-------

"Researchers have finally found out how sulfa drugs—the first class of antibiotics ever discovered—work at the molecular level. The finding offers insights into designing more robust antibiotic therapies.

Sulfa antibiotics were first used in the 1930s, and they revolutionized medicine. After a few years, bacteria started to develop resistance to the drugs, and eventually penicillin replaced them as a first-line treatment. While antibiotic resistance remains a problem for this class of antibiotics, sulfa drugs are still commonly used to treat a variety of bacterial infections.

Sulfa drugs work by binding and inhibiting a specific enzyme called dihydropteroate synthase (DHPS). This enzyme is critical for the synthesis of folate, an essential nutrient. Mammals get folate from their diet, but bacteria must synthesize this vitamin. Folate synthesis requires a chemical reaction between 2 molecules, DHPP and PABA, that is catalyzed by DHPS.

Bacteria resistant to sulfa drugs often have mutations in the DHPS enzyme. These mutations occur on 2 floppy loops that sit near the enzyme's active site. Previous research had described most of the structure of DHPS, but the structure of the floppy, highly conserved loops remained elusive. Moreover, researchers didn't know how the chemical reaction occurs between DHPP and PABA."

I'm not an expert or a medical professional such as you, but I think that sulfur is or has been used for dermatological purposes and does work as sort of an antibiotic, if I am not mistaken. I was "told" that folks that are allergic to sulfa drugs are probably not allergic to sulfur. But, I think we have strayed off the subject..

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Apparently, you missed the point. But, thanks for the lesson anyway. I just read the cliff notes, but I have decided not to make black powder or use it for an antibiotic...........

but are you going to inject bleach or lysol??????

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

I don't know your son, and I am relieved to know that he grew up.
You seem to be acquainted with stipulating "semantics" on many topics so I presumed that my use was permitted. Now that I know better, I will bow to those that are All Knowing.

Have a great day
I still consider the statement as "scare tactics" since there was no limiting terms used such as "some, instances, percentage, etc."

As a knight of the round table, I was honor bound by the code of chivalry to defend her

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Other illnesses have had long term or even permanent effects. Thanks for the fear mongering.

"The flu isn’t just a health risk for the seven days or so that you’re physically sick with the virus—it can also have some lasting effects that could affect your health for weeks, months, or even permanently. Here are some of the ways the flu can be a risk factor for health issues, even after you’re feeling better.

A number of studies have linked influenza to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke, and scientists have theorized that the inflammatory response triggered by the flu can fuel the development of atherosclerosis, a contributor to heart and artery disease. "

Why does information regarding the damaging effects of Covid become "fear mongering"? The information is there to inform, not to cause fear. Why is it being informed is referred to as "fear mongering". I just do not understand that mantra and I'm truly tired of hearing it. I've heard it so much, I have become numb to the silly term, "fear mongering".

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

So, you are suggesting that 44 million covid survivors probably have damaged hearts? Interesting. Guess the donor list will get pretty full pretty soon.

Sorry if my comments were not clear but I did not mean to imply that every single person who has had Covid would suffer heart damage. That just does not seem feasible, actually. Wouldn't that have been major headlines by now?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Well, Mr Bean didn't claim "some", nor did he say "1%", so the response is apropos to his claim...

Who is "Mr. Bean"?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You really have to be joking, right?

If I were to state that COVID survivors get into an auto accident 5 years after recovery, would one take that to mean every single one of 44 million survivors were going to be in a crash??? When my son was a teenager, he tried playing that same semantic game with me. It didn't work for him then, it doesn't work now. At least he grew up.

GE......you are my hero. Thank you.