[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I can't imagine that anyone in any administration said something like that. It has been well known and well publicized for over a year that these types of vaccines do not prevent anyone from getting Covid-19. It was thought at one time that the vaccines could prevent those vaccinated from transmitting it but that was also contradicted and highly publicized many months ago.

What the vaccine does it ensure that the severity of the symptoms will be less in vaccinated people than in unvaccinated people.That has been pretty much common knowledge for a long time.

In fact it is possible to get the flu after being vaccinated with the annual influenza vaccine.

I had a very severe case of Covid-19. I was hospitalized for 12 days and still have minor symptoms over two months after the onset of the disease.
Every doctor that I've seen has told me that if I had not been fully vaccinated, I would not have survived.

My better half also got Covid-19 while I was in the hospital. She is also fully vaccinated and had a relatively mild case.

Whatever your symptoms are, they will be less severe if you are vaccinated. I don't recall at any time anyone stating that these vaccines would prevent a person from contracting the virus.

What so many people fail to understand is that this is a very unique virus. It is different than any other virus that we've ever seen. There has been and will continue to be a huge learning curve. I've asked my doctors many questions and they have answered many of them. But in some cases, I've been told that "honestly, we just don't know". That is why we hear information one day and it changes a week or a month later. Testing shows one thing and later a different testing shows different results.

The medical community is giving us the best information that they have at the time. That is always subject to change.

Three hundred years ago bleeding and leeches were universally accepted treatments for many conditions. Does anyone question that the sincerity of those doctors?

What I can't seem to find and answer to and haven't had the opportunity to ask a doctor is, is the amount of antibodies related to the severity of the symptoms? In other words, do I have more antibodies than a person that has a mild case?

I've tried googling and every response seems to be a long scientific paper where I have to look up every other word and do not understand even after that.

Has anyone heard anything about that?

You can be tested for antibodies, but it is expensive in the US. I heard that Germany does give those tests regularly and relied on them as much as a vaccine. Whoever gives them around here should know the answers to those questions. i am glad that you got out of the hospital.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

82% vaccinated in The Villages. And a bunch of folks that survived the virus that are just as protected now as the vaccinated.

Some of those that survive lose their immunity in as short of a time as 2 months. IMO the medical experts do NOT know why it lasts longer for some people, maybe genetics??????

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Some of those that survive lose their immunity in as short of a time as 2 months. IMO the medical experts do NOT know why it lasts longer for some people, maybe genetics??????

Per the National Institutes of Health: “The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.”

[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

You can be tested for antibodies, but it is expensive in the US. I heard that Germany does give those tests regularly and relied on them as much as a vaccine. Whoever gives them around here should know the answers to those questions. i am glad that you got out of the hospital.

Why do you think it's expensive in the US?
You can get tested at Quest for $69.
The test is FREE if you give blood through One Blood.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

True that! Now you are talking and getting WITH the program. Keep up the good work and always remember to give dogs de-worming pills regularly and watch out for heartworms in Florida. put sandwich bags around each paw when they are walked because the ground is where the worm eggs are. (just kidding about the sandwich bags, maybe make a tough cloth barrier with velcro quick closures or invent something better). And avoid horse worming ivermectin for dogs and other ones that you love!

Except it's a lie...

And I'm sure you're aware that the inventor of Invermectin won the Nobel Prize for his developement of that medication FOR HUMANS, there it is still used today...

But please, keep spreading your misinformation...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Some of those that survive lose their immunity in as short of a time as 2 months. IMO the medical experts do NOT know why it lasts longer for some people, maybe genetics??????

More misinformation...

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Please post that 1,000 times for the _________(fill in the blank) who think it is better to get the disease.

There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection.

There are several news stories about this. I won't bother to post links because I'm tired of being told my sources are not reliable. I do not buy into those conspiracy theory sites or conspiracy theory "experts" so make your own conclusions to the findings.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Wyseguy

Can you tell me some of his false claims?

I cannot as I have not read any of his claims and am not interested to read them. His reputation precedes him. Nope, not interested in what he has to say. I'll stick with the CDC and our government for information.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection.

There are several news stories about this. I won't bother to post links because I'm tired of being told my sources are not reliable. I do not buy into those conspiracy theory sites or conspiracy theory "experts" so make your own conclusions to the findings.

Other illnesses have had long term or even permanent effects. Thanks for the fear mongering.

"The flu isn’t just a health risk for the seven days or so that you’re physically sick with the virus—it can also have some lasting effects that could affect your health for weeks, months, or even permanently. Here are some of the ways the flu can be a risk factor for health issues, even after you’re feeling better.

A number of studies have linked influenza to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke, and scientists have theorized that the inflammatory response triggered by the flu can fuel the development of atherosclerosis, a contributor to heart and artery disease. "

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

There is recent data that says Covid survivors have damage to their hearts a year after having Covid. That includes people who had minimal symptoms and were not hospitalized at the time of their infection.

There are several news stories about this. I won't bother to post links because I'm tired of being told my sources are not reliable. I do not buy into those conspiracy theory sites or conspiracy theory "experts" so make your own conclusions to the findings.

So, you are suggesting that 44 million covid survivors probably have damaged hearts? Interesting. Guess the donor list will get pretty full pretty soon.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

So, you are suggesting that 44 million covid survivors probably have damaged hearts? Interesting. Guess the donor list will get pretty full pretty soon.

I very much doubt that the person who posted that was suggesting 44 million covid survivors will have chronic "heart disease". And there is no way anyone with 2 functioning neurons would interpret her comment in that fashion. But.....if only 1% had long term cardiac impairment, that's still 440,000 people.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Except it's a lie...

And I'm sure you're aware that the inventor of Invermectin won the Nobel Prize for his developement of that medication FOR HUMANS, there it is still used today...

But please, keep spreading your misinformation...

to those scientists for there work on ivermectin to be used against parasitic infections only not for Covid

[biker1]

The last time I gave blood via One Blood, they weren't doing the Antibody tests anymore (or they were doing the test but not sending out the result).

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Why do you think it's expensive in the US?
You can get tested at Quest for $69.
The test is FREE if you give blood through One Blood.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I very much doubt that the person who posted that was suggesting 44 million covid survivors will have chronic "heart disease". And there is no way anyone with 2 functioning neurons would interpret her comment in that fashion. But.....if only 1% had long term cardiac impairment, that's still 440,000 people.

Well, Mr Bean didn't claim "some", nor did he say "1%", so the response is apropos to his claim...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

to those scientists for there work on ivermectin to be used against parasitic infections only

And, once again, medicines are quite often used "off label" for things they were not originally designed for...

For example: "Anakinra (Kineret®) and canakinumab (Ilaris®) are being used by some rheumatologists as an “off label” treatment for severe gout attacks"...