[biker1]

So let me get this straight, you are suggesting that the operation of the polling facility be disrupted and create inconvenience for regular citizens trying to vote? Yeah, that makes sense.

Originally Posted by Bonnevie

there are substantial disruptions every time he goes to Mar-A-Lago.....from Palm Beach newspaper: In Palm Beach, Trump’s motorcade must drive several miles to reach Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach. Those near-daily trips to his golf club require additional security to secure the motorcade route, direct traffic and protect another venue.

so surely if he can spend that much money to play golf, he could have just as easily voted in person.
Absentee Ballots are a great way to vote for the many senior citizens, military, and others who can’t get to the polls on Election Day. These ballots are very different from 100% Mail-In Voting, which is “RIPE for FRAUD,” and shouldn’t be allowed!

— President Trump, on Twitter

so what's the difference between mailing an absentee ballot vs a mail in ballot???? as someone recently wrote sarcastically but truthfully: "An absentee ballot is placed in an envelope, whereas a mail-in vote is enclosed in an envelope. The difference in security should be obvious.

[Hacker1]

We are Wisconsin residents, and we always vote absentee in elections held while we're in Florida. This recent election was no exception. In late March, we received a general email encouraging Wisconsin voters to request absentee ballots in order to avoid having to physically go to the polls during the Covid crisis. So I was (and am) disappointed to learn that so many who requested absentee ballots did not receive them. I suspect this is on the Postal Service, and now I wonder whether our ballots (which were mailed a couple of weeks prior to Nov 7) actually arrived; and I will try to find out.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Even without a source, I'll bet you're right.

The problem as I see it is this:
In 1992 there was no internet fraud. There was limited use of the internet and limited commerce. The "fraudsters" were dumpster diving, phone soliciting, and door to door.
Now, you can't do anything but delete most e-mails. Why? The "fraudsters" moved on to greener pastures. When Willie Sutton was asked why he robs banks, his reply was "that's where the money is"
I'm afraid that if all voting migrates to mail, or internet, or interactive TV, the "fraudsters" will be out in droves. Just because they aren't here at the moment, just like the early internet, they very well may appear. Why? Because that's where the votes are.
Like the investment ad states----"past performance is no guarantee of future returns"

PS: Despite all this political BS, I still love you OBB, and you too, Blue.

I don't think switching completely to internet votes or snail-mail votes is the answer. I feel both should be an option, in addition to in-person poll locations.

In some states that's already the case.

I'm actually against 100% internet-based voting for a few reasons.
1) accessibility. Not everyone has reliable internet. In some rural areas there is no internet at all.
2) security. Not everyone understands the importance of setting up firewalls and virus protection, and voting requires that you identify yourself uniquely. This presents a huge risk to those folks who don't properly set up their internet security. Identity theft should be the #1 concern - imagine someone taking over the voting rights of entire electoral college districts for the NEXT election after this one. No one will even know it was done, until they try to vote 4 years later.
3) a sense of "closure." This is more of a personal thing - I prefer doing things in person, because I can see for myself that my efforts got from point A (my hand) to point B (the ballot box.) It's why I prefer cash transactions and RARELY ever buy anything online. If I need money I go inside a bank and have them give me cash at the teller. I don't "do" ATMs.

[cherylncliff]

Florida already has vote by mail. If you are already registered, you can change to vote by mail online by going to your county Supervisor of elections web page. Do it NOW. If you are a resident of another state, check and see if they already allow vote by mail or absentee ballot. For those states that do not allow absentee, start writing your state and federal representatives and demand vote by mail.

[Rosie1950]

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Consider

We have a government here in Florida who are paid to handle these things and neither you or the poster you are replying to will have to worry about it.

You are absolutely correct. I’m from CT. I worked years ago for the registrar if voters.
Around the country these registrars are going to be responsible for keeping their voting lists up to date. Now right now some states are having to bring in extra undertakers to help with the amount of dying people.
NY has over 7,000 deaths so the task will be daunting.
People get away with voting for dead Aunt Tiily then the registrar is not doing their job!
With the amount of soles that will be lost according to projections in a very short time (and people still die from other issues) the task is going to be daunting.

[blueash]

Please try not to tell people how to vote or this is going to be shut down. And this really is not about whether the president should vote in person or how often or where he, or Obama, golfs.

I ask that you try to stick to the topic of what should Florida do to make voting safe in a Covid restricted environment.
Please look at the letter sent by GOP and DEM county election supervisors making suggestions for what they believe needs to be done for the upcoming primary and general elections. It is on the Access Denied website:

It says they had issues with the recent primary election and anticipate more problems in August and November
It asks for expanded voting days and expanded hours and expanded locations
It asks for PPE
It asks for expanded but not 100% vote by mail
It asks for changes in when mailed votes can be counted.

It has lots of concerns and lots of questions.

[Matthew Wag]

My opinion, vote in person only unless Military. Proof of citizenship. To avoid getting kicked off again, certain parties have more people on voter rolls then people exist in certain states. Certain parties are criminals and can only cheat to get elected. Note I did not pick on a political party so the Sensors should not kick me off again!

[Joe V.]

LOL. Yahoo News. pfft.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Matthew Wag

My opinion, vote in person only unless Military. Proof of citizenship. To avoid getting kicked off again, certain parties have more people on voter rolls then people exist in certain states. Certain parties are criminals and can only cheat to get elected. Note I did not pick on a political party so the Sensors should not kick me off again!

"Certain parties" cannot in any state have people on voter rolls. Only the government itself can place, or remove, a person from the voter rolls. Your premise is wrong.

Parties and any registered group can provide forms to people to be filled in with information to allow them to register. It is illegal for anyone to force a non-voter to register. It is illegal for anyone to only accept forms from people who will register in a certain way. It is also illegal once a form collector is given a form for that collector to not turn it in to the government. You can read the rules if you care to learn the truth. Perhaps certain parties are less interested in truthful facts than others.

So if you hear of some, say Democratic, organization turns in a voter registration listing a name as Mickey Mouse, residence Disney World... if that is how the "voter" filled in the form the organization MUST turn it in. Then the government decides whether that is a legitimate registration and lists Mickey, or a non-legitimate and does not list Mickey.

Censors not sensors. Spell check won't help if you type a wrong word like that.

[Joe V.]

The governor is a democrat. Ironic, huh?

[blueash]

Here is part of the letter sent to the governor. I would oppose the suggestion to eliminate the requirement that each precinct have a polling place and allow the county to consolidate. People in TV are going to be rightly unhappy if Sumter Co. goes to a consolidated polling place in Sumterville. Keep in mind Milwaukee went from 180 places to 5. Chaos, hours in line, disease spread risk

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

The governor is a democrat. Ironic, huh?

I'm not sure of the post to which you are replying. Our governor in Florida is GOP. If you are replying about Wisconsin, yes he is DEM. But he ordered the election postponed and the vote by mail allowances expanded. It was the GOP which insisted the election be held on the original date with no expansion of vote by mail. So you really can't blame Wisconsin's governor for the election day problems. His mitigation attempts were blocked by the opposition. Ironic, huh?

What do you think our GOP governor should be ordering now to have our Florida elections in Aug and Nov not be plagued by the problems experienced in Wisconsin?

[Joe V.]

The person from WI complaining about the bad GOP with a dem governor in place.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by blueash

I'm not sure of the post to which you are replying. Our governor in Florida is GOP. If you are replying about Wisconsin, yes he is DEM. But he ordered the election postponed and the vote by mail allowances expanded. It was the GOP which insisted the election be held on the original date with no expansion of vote by mail. So you really can't blame Wisconsin's governor for the election day problems. His mitigation attempts were blocked by the opposition. Ironic, huh?

What do you think our GOP governor should be ordering now to have our Florida elections in Aug and Nov not be plagued by the problems experienced in Wisconsin?

The person from WI complaining about the bad GOP with a dem governor in place.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

The person from WI complaining about the bad GOP with a dem governor in place.

See how I added your posting to make it clear to whom I am responding? Use the "reply with quote button" to easily do it. You can even shorten the poster's message if it is too long, or you want to highlight with bold or color or font etc.

Originally Posted by Joe V.

The person from WI complaining about the bad GOP with a dem governor in place.

Thank you for the clarification. Do you have any thoughts about what Florida should be doing to plan for possible problems in this state?