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It looks like the time has come to ban heterosexuals from the Armed Forces!
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Don't know where I read it, but it said the affair took place after he retired
from the Army. If that's the case, then he no longer falls under UCMJ.
Taken from Article 2 of the UCMJ (see item 4);
802. ART. 2. PERSONS SUBJECT TO THIS CHAPTER
(a) The following persons are subject to this chapter:
(1) Members of a regular component of the armed forces, including those awaiting discharge after expiration of their terms of enlistment; volunteers from the time of their muster or acceptance into the armed forces; inductees from the time of their actual induction into the armed forces; and other persons lawfully called or ordered into, or to duty in or for training in the armed forces, from the dates when they are required by the terms of the call or order to obey it.
(2) Cadets, aviation cadets, and midshipman.
(3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal Service.
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It looks like the time has come to ban heterosexuals from the Armed Forces!
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This might or might not have anything to do with the subject but I saw a picture of the General's wife. What a contrast! He has kept himself fit and trim and young looking while she seems to have done just the opposite.
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I'm with Gracie in that I'm not much into conspiricay theorys but three high ranking military men demoted or fired after Bengazi is a little much to take in. This must be something BIG. There has to be more to it. It all sounds too high school mean girls.
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This might or might not have anything to do with the subject but I saw a picture of the General's wife. What a contrast! He has kept himself fit and trim and young looking while she seems to have done just the opposite.


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This might or might not have anything to do with the subject but I saw a picture of the General's wife. What a contrast! He has kept himself fit and trim and young looking while she seems to have done just the opposite.
OK, as a woman I must take offense at this comment, however I know a Generals wife has the funds to have a "little work" done. :-). BTW, the General isn't exactly Brad Pitt handsome.
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I'm with Gracie in that I'm not much into conspiricay theorys but three high ranking military men demoted or fired after Bengazi is a little much to take in. This must be something BIG. There has to be more to it. It all sounds too high school mean girls.
Please explain who are the "three high ranking military men demoted or fired after Bengazi"? General Petraeus resigned, and General Allen's promotion to Supreme Allied Commander of NATO Forces has been put on hold. Who was demoted or fired?
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Taken from Article 2 of the UCMJ (see item 4);
802. ART. 2. PERSONS SUBJECT TO THIS CHAPTER
(a) The following persons are subject to this chapter:
(1) Members of a regular component of the armed forces, including those awaiting discharge after expiration of their terms of enlistment; volunteers from the time of their muster or acceptance into the armed forces; inductees from the time of their actual induction into the armed forces; and other persons lawfully called or ordered into, or to duty in or for training in the armed forces, from the dates when they are required by the terms of the call or order to obey it.
(2) Cadets, aviation cadets, and midshipman.
(3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal Service.
(4) Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay.
Very interesting that #4. I did a quick search of the UCMJ, couldn't find anything on adultery, but conduct unbecoming would apply. Regardless, I don't think he will face a Courts Martial. Possibly loss of a star, but with his background, I don't think the gov't wants to take that route. I wonder if the POTUS, as Commander in Chief, would be subject to the UCMJ?
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I am not big on conspiracy stories either, I prefer to work with what we know. I think this is a sad story and I think it is in some ways reflective of us as a nation... Our military is a lot like business today, do the same amount of work or more with less people. General Petraeus has been our go to guy and has done great things for our country in Iraq and Afghanistan. Like many in our military he has served multiple tours , time after time in the wars we have fought for the last 12 years. Do more with less....I read were has spent most of the last 10 years away from his wife, serving our country. Do not get me wrong , what he did is very wrong but understandable, not sure if it is forgivable, only his wife can determine that.. He spent 10 years away from home and shared meaningful time with an attractive someone other than his wife, kinda like rubbing sticks together, eventually there is a spark...and then fire. I think there is a lesson in this for all of us if we are willing to look..
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Please explain who are the "three high ranking military men demoted or fired after Bengazi"? General Petraeus resigned, and General Allen's promotion to Supreme Allied Commander of NATO Forces has been put on hold. Who was demoted or fired?

OK, semantics...Petreaus resigned...General Allen was "put on hold", 4star General William Ward, head of US Africa Command was stripped of one star and relieved of Command.
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This might or might not have anything to do with the subject but I saw a picture of the General's wife. What a contrast! He has kept himself fit and trim and young looking while she seems to have done just the opposite.
PLEASE - that is just plain stupid and denegrating to all of us as human beings. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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[QUOTE=gomoho;580979]PLEASE - that is just plain stupid and denegrating to all of us as human beings. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOT:

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I wonder if the POTUS, as Commander in Chief, would be subject to the UCMJ?
No, POTUS is a civilian, he is not a military member. Read the United States Constitution, get informed.
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I'm with Gracie in that I'm not much into conspiricay theorys but three high ranking military men demoted or fired after Bengazi is a little much to take in. This must be something BIG. There has to be more to it. It all sounds too high school mean girls.
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OK, semantics...Petreaus resigned...General Allen was "put on hold", 4star General William Ward, head of US Africa Command was stripped of one star and relieved of Command.
Semantics again...General William Ward was relieved of command and stripped of one star because of lavish spending, General Petreaus resigned because of unacceptable behavior, and General Allen is being investigated because of email correspondence. None of these cases have anything to do with Bengazi.

Tomorrow General Petreaus will testify about Bengazi before a closed session of the Senate Intellegience Committee. Stay tuned.


General William Ward demoted for lavish travel, spending - Associated Press - POLITICO.com
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