[Clark124]

About 15 years ago I had an allergic reaction to amoxicillin, it makes me cautious.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

That is your freedom of choice.
Live with it.

Doesn’t make sense, there are regimes though that will defend your analogy.

[bruce213]

It may come down to economics, I'm sure we'll see businesses advertising "All staff covid vaccinated" or your up for a promotion and the other leading contender is vaccinated. All things I'm going to pick the vaccinated hygienist over the non-vaccinated.

[Scott O]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

What difference does it make? When vaccination is mandated (and I truly believe it will be) to live our lives like we used to, we will all need proof of vaccination. As I said in my OP, there are so many activities that should mandate vaccination. That is the difference when you are vaccinated....to be able to live life normally again. No proof of vaccination? People will be restricted with what they can do in life. For example.....like to travel? You need to be vaccinated. Like to go to concerts or sporting events? You need to be vaccinated.

This is what I wish for.

Maybe you’d like to stand in front of the people and families of those who have died from the “vaccine” or had severe reactions sending them to the emergency room, and tell them “what difference does it make” if you want any freedom in your life from here on out you, you have to do as I wish, because I want to go cruising again...I would be first in line for that audience...

[Arl]

I feel everyone should have the choice to get the shot or not. Not to be forced by anyone
if you’re not comfortable. They don’t know enough about how you will react to this shot
so everyone should be able to make their own decisions.

[ScottS]

Ask yourself why is it now illegal to report deaths from the vaccine. Why is there no place on a death certificate for death related to the vaccine. Coffee bean stop being so narrow minded about this subject. The actual amount of deaths from the vaccine would shock you. And the percentage grows astronomically the older you are. Most of us have gone back to life as we knew it. Other than being FORCED to wear a mask where you work. Yes FORCED. Over and over again masks have been proven to cause more harm than good, yet here we are a year later still wearing diapers on our faces like good little sheep. Anyone wanting digital proof of a vaccine is a fool. Anyone wanting mandated vaccines is a fool. And you saying they should be required to attend concerts, sporting events, public transportation etc is pure selfishness. Not surprising but yet selfish. The amount of deaths and tragic side effects from this virtually untested vaccine is astonishing, but thanks to the selfish people out there who choose to blindly follow the herd, these deaths are acceptable. How sad.

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Notsocrates

Is anyone old enough to remember smallpox? The last diagnosed case in the world was in the 1970's. Totally eradicated!! This could not have been achieved if vaccination had been optional.

Smallpox killed people of all ages, not predominantly older people with multiple other medical issues.
I think it’s great that the vaccine is available. It will allow those in that demographic to resume their lives. For the rest of the population for whom Covid is only at minor risk, the vaccine should continue to be optional. At this point no one knows if there will be any long term side effects from the vaccine.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by jamorela

Exactly! I had the first shot and had a rash reaction on my face and arms. (In fact, my face still is red after a month!). Since I have had an anaphylactic response to the sulfa drug in the past, two doctors, a nurse, and CDC guidelines have recommended not getting the second one. “Not worth the risk.” My sister-in-law has severe allergies and was also told by her doctor NOT to get the shot.

I had my first shot of Moderna. There was no problem with Moderna BUT the shot itself was not properly placed and this is what happened to me: the first 24 hours I had extreme pain from my shoulder to my finger tips and that felt that way for the whole 24 hours. This was 3 weeks ago and I still have pain in the arm when I move it and occasionally there is pain from the nerve in my arm that runs down from the injection site to my hand and when that happens it is extreme pain and fans out into my hand. It feels like an electrical charge. The person injecting me did not get it in the deltoid muscle but instead hit a nerve. It happens and I have since found evidence of this from medical journals, NIH, CDC and personal accounts but unfortunately didn't know this before my shot. I am considering seeing a neurologist for this problem because it is not going away.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Get your wallet out, this will not be cheap.

If one has had their vaccination, what difference does it make? Or is government telling us all what medicines we have to take or have injected into our bodies the proposal here? Slippery slope. Btw, yes... I chose to have the vaccine.

What difference does it make????? Are you kidding?
Get the dam shot- or just stay home.

[ScottS]

Where is your proof? Where is your proof in all of these BS numbers you keep spewing about a vaccine that hasn’t been tested and has no history to base anything on ? Stick to drinking coffee and stop posting false undocumented BS on here. Sheesh.

The efficacy of the vaccines affords an individual 94.1% efficacy from the Moderna vaccine and 95% efficacy from the Pfizer vaccine. That means that an individual will have 94.1% protection of not becoming infected with Covid when taking the Moderna vaccine and 95% protection of not becoming infected when taking the Pfizer vaccine. Both vaccines offer 100% protection of not having severe disease therefore not requiring hospitalization.

That is extremely good for these vaccines to offer that kind of protection.[/QUOTE]

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by La lamy

I concur that some of us who have had allergic reactions to shots in the past have to be weary of getting this vaccine. There's also constant mutations that occur which scientist are already scrambling to figure out if this latest vaccine will be effective for them. No one knows how long your inoculation will be effective for either. Not a guarantee to prevent you or others from future infections (you can still be an asymptomatic carrier), so I'm always going to try to social distance and do good hand hygiene versus having blind faith in one vaccine. But with all that said I'm genuinely happy for those of you who feel more peace with the 'protection' of this first vaccine.

I agree. There is still way too much they don’t know.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I honestly do not think it will come to that..

There’s an awful lot of things I never thought could happen

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

What difference does it make????? Are you kidding?
Get the dam shot- or just stay home.

I got the shot. I’m not out there “dictating” how everyone else should live but then I am an American that still respects personal choice.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by ScottS

Ask yourself why is it now illegal to report deaths from the vaccine. Why is there no place on a death certificate for death related to the vaccine. Coffee bean stop being so narrow minded about this subject. The actual amount of deaths from the vaccine would shock you. And the percentage grows astronomically the older you are. Most of us have gone back to life as we knew it. Other than being FORCED to wear a mask where you work. Yes FORCED. Over and over again masks have been proven to cause more harm than good, yet here we are a year later still wearing diapers on our faces like good little sheep. Anyone wanting digital proof of a vaccine is a fool. Anyone wanting mandated vaccines is a fool. And you saying they should be required to attend concerts, sporting events, public transportation etc is pure selfishness. Not surprising but yet selfish. The amount of deaths and tragic side effects from this virtually untested vaccine is astonishing, but thanks to the selfish people out there who choose to blindly follow the herd, these deaths are acceptable. How sad.

If all these 'shocking numbers' of deaths are not being reported, how did you get the information?

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by ScottS

Ask yourself why is it now illegal to report deaths from the vaccine. Why is there no place on a death certificate for death related to the vaccine. Coffee bean stop being so narrow minded about this subject. The actual amount of deaths from the vaccine would shock you. And the percentage grows astronomically the older you are. Most of us have gone back to life as we knew it. Other than being FORCED to wear a mask where you work. Yes FORCED. Over and over again masks have been proven to cause more harm than good, yet here we are a year later still wearing diapers on our faces like good little sheep. Anyone wanting digital proof of a vaccine is a fool. Anyone wanting mandated vaccines is a fool. And you saying they should be required to attend concerts, sporting events, public transportation etc is pure selfishness. Not surprising but yet selfish. The amount of deaths and tragic side effects from this virtually untested vaccine is astonishing, but thanks to the selfish people out there who choose to blindly follow the herd, these deaths are acceptable. How sad.

Wow!! You are the narrow-minded. No one is saying you have to get a vaccine. But if you are going to any public event, or even private event, you better have had the shot...otherwise..dont come....now, is that so difficult to get thru your head?