[jebartle]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

Your OP said 49000.00 which is a perfectly acceptable wage for 10 months of work

Oops, typo

[Lovetocamp2]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

You can’t compare salaries unless you also compare the cost of living in New York and Florida.

A salary of $25,000 in Orlando, Florida should increase to $46,552 in New York, New York. That is 1.86 higher.

If you multiply $49,000 times 1.86 you get $91,140.

Adjusted for cost of living, it appears that Florida pays more than New York.

And don’t forget all the taxes in New York that Florida doesn’t have.

[sloanst]

For those presenting this single piece of data (yearly salary) without also presenting the average cost of living in a specific location, then you're just trying to present an elaborate lie. The cost of living in New York City is easily twice of our region of Florida not to mention the taxes in New York and the dangers of living in the city.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Geodyssey

Other jobs require "extra" work too. Especially small businesses.

Today, most teachers are "woke" and are slackers on the gov't tit.

It's no longer 1963.

You are completely wrong regarding teachers. It is important to know when to not argue with a person and simply let them be wrong.

[twoplanekid]

Everyone wants/needs an increase in salaries. This will cost NSCUDD $ 250,000 more per year.

Details found below from Districtgov.org

Coversheet

[justjim]

Originally Posted by sloanst

For those presenting this single piece of data (yearly salary) without also presenting the average cost of living in a specific location, then you're just trying to present an elaborate lie. The cost of living in New York City is easily twice of our region of Florida not to mention the taxes in New York and the dangers of living in the city.

Florida cost of living is very different from county to county and City to City. Orange County is very different from Sumter, Lake or Marion etc. etc. $ 49,000 starting teacher salary isn’t all that bad (for 10 months annual salary) in some parts of Florida but in others a very poor starting salary. The teacher shortage is real in Florida and other places in US. Wages, working conditions and college costs are the main culprits keeping young people from becoming the next generation of teachers.

[Gulfcoast]

Both of my kids have graduated from a Florida HS, in fact, my youngest graduated from HS just last year. I really can't complain about the public school system. We live in a middle class/working class suburb and I never felt unsafe sending my kids to school. The teachers, for the most part, did a good job with some being better than others. From my perspective, Florida schools, or at least the one my kids attended, are not flashy, state of the art schools with modern everything/the very latest technology like they have up north. We had actually moved to Florida from a northern state and I will admit that it was a bit of a shock to see the difference between the school systems.

That said, while I'm sure that Florida schools have discipline/drug problems like just about all schools do, I never once heard concern about gangs which had been a growing problem in the northern school system that we left.

Florida also offers excellent dual enrollment opportunities for students which allows them to get college and/or vocational credit while still in HS. Florida offers Bright Future scholarships for students who maintain a certain GPA, make qualifying SAT/ACT scores and do a minimum set number of volunteer service hours.

As far as teacher salaries go, I really can't speak to that. I do know that we have teachers living in our neighborhood and that there are many longtime teachers in our school system. If I recall correctly, the governor also gave teachers bonuses fairly recently related to working through the pandemic.

Another thing I will note is that when our school very suddenly had to switch to distance learning during the early part of the pandemic, they did it fast and without a hitch. By comparison it took the northern, state of the art school district that we had left years before months to finally get their students switched over to distance learning. In fact, I think that the Florida brick and mortar schools may have reopened by the time the northern school district got it's act together enough to get the kids on distance learning and they didn't reopen brick and mortar schools for a year.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

In 1958-1959 I took a history class in HS. Our teacher was a a nice guy but not bright, far from it in fact. He just read our lessons from the book we had read the night before. Boring at best. He was a huge supporter of getting some teachers' union into town. And they were accepted. He proudly announced it, too. Mediocrity rules!

I attended a private parochial school in the 70's and had the same caliber teachers, with no union and they were paid a lot less than the public school teachers. In fact one teacher told us that he could make more money doing construction work. We had one class where the teacher instructed to read National Geographic magazines.

My mom had a masters degree and as a substitutete teacher in the 70's was paid $28.00 a day. I bagged groceries in and around same time and could make more money.

Bottom line is that teachers are underpaid considering the schooling that is reguired and which is necessary to be an effective teacher.

[dewilson58]

Over 90% of the workers/employees/IC's in the USA are underpaid.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

I attended a private parochial school in the 70's and had the same caliber teachers, with no union and they were paid a lot less than the public school teachers. In fact one teacher told us that he could make more money doing construction work. We had one class where the teacher instructed to read National Geographic magazines.

My mom had a masters degree and as a substitutete teacher in the 70's was paid $28.00 a day. I bagged groceries in and around same time and could make more money.

Bottom line is that teachers are underpaid considering the schooling that is reguired and which is necessary to be an effective teacher.

Totally disagree that a Masters degree is necessary to teach high school and elementary school classes and they only work 10 months a year.

[Babubhat]

Go substitute for a week before complaining. You will be crying at the end of the day

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

Totally disagree that a Masters degree is necessary to teach high school and elementary school classes and they only work 10 months a year.

I agree.

I will shorten your statement and it's true across all "professions": a Masters degree is necessary

[Djean1981]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

Totally disagree that a Masters degree is necessary to teach high school and elementary school classes and they only work 10 months a year.

As long as they pass the competency exams for the subjects they teach, I agree.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

I agree.

I will shorten your statement and it's true across all "professions": a Masters degree is necessary

Doesn’t sound like you agree.

[Djean1981]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Go substitute for a week before complaining. You will be crying at the end of the day

I substituted for a year around 2004 for $42/day. It was no picnic.