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I started working from home 5yrs ago. I thought great, I won’t catch colds as much. WRONG, I was still catching s colds and worse. Went to my doctor and he said, you are getting more sick with colds because you are not around people. Your immune system weakens. I couldn’t believe it, but it does happen. The more you stay away from people the more your immune system will weaken. And that happens with older people because they go out less. We have been running around in the villages, in the restaurants and bars since they opened and like all the others have not gotten sick. And I still work from home and honestly will not go out everyday or night just cause I work and I still have not gotten sick. My guy is 69 and a few health issues. Stay healthy and do what’s best for you
Depends what’s causing your sickness. If it’s cancer or something like that I believe you, but if it is bacteria or virus I don’t think so. Contagious illness like the flu, cold, measles etc are .... well contagious. You get it from people.

Older people have less immunity. In Canada, for example, 80% of all Covid deaths occurred among long term residents. They were always among people, tell your doctor.
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Cdc studies, if you want to believe them, indicate that 85 percent of people who caught covid were masks wearers and only 4 percent never wore a mask. As far as brain damage, it is apparent that a great many people suffer from that even thought they never had the disease, including those who propose euthanasia as a solution.
We can tell you watch Tucker, Fact check: Trump falsely claims that CDC found that 85% of people who wear masks get the coronavirus - CNNPolitics
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With herd immunity you don’t get a shot of mercury and aluminum. Vaccines contain known toxins that in any other ingest able, and /or injected form are banned.
Vaccines do NOT contain mercury or aluminum. Stop getting your science from politicians and go read the literature!
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Old 10-30-2020, 09:50 AM
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"You can't get "herd immunity" without infecting the herd. Take OFF your mask and go about your life. If you're worried about other people living free without a mask - then stay home."

We will achieve herd immunity SAFELY when enough people globally are inoculated with a safe and effective vaccine. I can only hope that day will come while I'm still alive and can once again enjoy life as it was pre-pandemic.

In the mean time, I will wear my mask when in public indoors all the time and outdoors when social distancing can not be maintained. The exception to wearing a mask indoors is when dining in a restaurant. Hubby and I will not go to any restaurant that does not socially distance their patrons. That is a choice hubby and I have made for ourselves. We are doing everything we can to stay safe yet still enjoy life. It can be done. No, we do not want to stay home.
Not sure why you think we need to know this. Thankful for closed mask and COVID threads.
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Old 10-30-2020, 09:54 AM
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YES IT IS. When I started working from home 5 yrs ago, I thought, great I won’t get sick as much!! WRONG!! Since I was not around people all the time, my immune system weakened! I had several doctors tell me this. They said at any age if you are not around people a lot and then go out, you will get sick more. And it’s true!!
That’s one theory. Here’s another that I offer to anyone interested. I wish you all the best.

Excerpt from following article: “Poor emotional health can weaken your body’s immune system. This makes you more likely to get colds and other infections during emotionally difficult times.”

Mind/Body Connection: How Emotions Affect Health
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I keep hoping one person will actually listen and open their mind. The information I pass on in these threads is very much available to anyone. I believe in the science and scientists.

I've heard the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result. I guess, that is what I'm up against. I just keep plugging along and hope one person will open their minds to science that has been proven.
Which science? There are many scientist on both sides.
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Another thread closed before I could respond to a comment. I'm getting "Thread Closed" fatigue........

Originally posted by oneclickplus..........
"You can't get "herd immunity" without infecting the herd. Take OFF your mask and go about your life. If you're worried about other people living free without a mask - then stay home."

We will achieve herd immunity SAFELY when enough people globally are inoculated with a safe and effective vaccine. I can only hope that day will come while I'm still alive and can once again enjoy life as it was pre-pandemic.

In the mean time, I will wear my mask when in public indoors all the time and outdoors when social distancing can not be maintained. The exception to wearing a mask indoors is when dining in a restaurant. Hubby and I will not go to any restaurant that does not socially distance their patrons. That is a choice hubby and I have made for ourselves. We are doing everything we can to stay safe yet still enjoy life. It can be done. No, we do not want to stay home.
'Herd Immunity" and "mask wearing" have been made political subjects and statements. Doesn't anyone FACT CHECK???? Come on people....do a little research with the fact checking venues of your choice to sort out the manipulating lies that have divided our country. And above all please be kind to each other. Division is another political lie. We are one people...we'd all better start embracing our differences and respecting each other. We can plainly see how the alternative has worked out for us...and it's NOT WORKING for anyone.
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Herd immunity may or may not ever come. Herd immunity has never occurred for the flu. The virus keeps mutating, immunity fades. The vaccine last year was only around 45% effective. So don't bet your life on herd immunity.

Some good news is that a lower percentage of people are dying of COVID-19 as doctors learn more about how to treat patients who have it. And it will continue to get better.

In the meantime, do everything you can to avoid getting it or giving it to others (masks, distancing, hand washing, just like the professionals are saying).
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'Herd Immunity" and "mask wearing" have been made political subjects and statements. Doesn't anyone FACT CHECK???? Come on people....do a little research with the fact checking venues of your choice to sort out the manipulating lies that have divided our country. And above all please be kind to each other. Division is another political lie. We are one people...we'd all better start embracing our differences and respecting each other. We can plainly see how the alternative has worked out for us...and it's NOT WORKING for anyone.
I’m with you that we are one and we all have more in common than we have differences. But from what I understand, mask wearing is physiological - not political - in that it helps prevent transmission of the virus. If you have evidence to the contrary, please post it. I’d like to abandon my mask too!
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With herd immunity you don’t get a shot of mercury and aluminum. Vaccines contain known toxins that in any other ingest able, and /or injected form are banned.
That is way anti-science! I hope that very few people believe that - or soon this country will be forcing women to wear bonnets and blinders when out in public. The modern world would crumble back to the dark ages. Please say that it isn't so!
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Yes, you are right, you get a chance to die a painful, suffocating, lonely death instead. Yeah for herd immunity!
Listen to the science, not the wacky anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists
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Did you know gullible and gullable are not in the dictionary?
GULLIBLE | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
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Listen to the science, not the wacky anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists
My background is chemical engineering, you bet I listen to science! I was being sarcastic about herd immunity without a vaccine, hope it was obvious.
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I’m with you that we are one and we all have more in common than we have differences. But from what I understand, mask wearing is physiological - not political - in that it helps prevent transmission of the virus. If you have evidence to the contrary, please post it. I’d like to abandon my mask too!
Thanks for your reply.

Masks definitely help stop the spread! Not my opinion but scientific fact. That is why I am imploring people to FACT CHECK with reputable platforms that will give you truth on these topics and anything else that needs investigating.
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Did you know gullible and gullable are not in the dictionary?

QUOTE=Dana1963;1854485]GULLIBLE | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary[/QUOTE]

Just wonderin’ Dana ... you thought I was serious?
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