[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

If EVs are so good why doesn't the government eliminate their large suvs for evs?

Seriously? Maybe at least part are long term contracts, and another part is at the moment (last time I checked) used Teslas are selling for more than new ones - because they are back ordered as usual. So much demand they can't make the batteries fast enough to keep up.

Why did the CRTs keep selling when flat screens came out.
Why did people keep buying horses when cars came out

on and on and on.

As, always so many people that can tell us why something news is no good and will never work. Conserving the past - the future will not get better. ahem...

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Seriously? Maybe at least part are long term contracts, and another part is at the moment (last time I checked) used Teslas are selling for more than new ones - because they are back ordered as usual. So much demand they can't make the batteries fast enough to keep up.

Why did the CRTs keep selling when flat screens came out.
Why did people keep buying horses when cars came out

on and on and on.

As, always so many people that can tell us why something news is no good and will never work. Conserving the past - the future will not get better. ahem...

Okay

[Tvflguy]

Yet again, EV prices being raised even more and more. The new Ford F-150 Lightning just raised ANOTHER $5,000. All EVs have skyrocketed in price since introduction, at a much higher rate than ICE counterparts.

The mfrs know that tax breaks may soften the price a bit in buyers eyes. And of course their costs for producing EVs have increased greatly.

Guess who is paying for those state and federal tax breaks for EVs? Yep.

Not against EVs at all. But the Feds attempting to force change in a relatively short time is outrageous. Especially doing everything to raise gasoline and diesel prices to “incentivize” Buyers to go EV.

[Dotneko]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

Yet again, EV prices being raised even more and more. The new Ford F-150 Lightning just raised ANOTHER $5,000. All EVs have skyrocketed in price since introduction, at a much higher rate than ICE counterparts.

The mfrs know that tax breaks may soften the price a bit in buyers eyes. And of course their costs for producing EVs have increased greatly.

Guess who is paying for those state and federal tax breaks for EVs? Yep.

Not against EVs at all. But the Feds attempting to force change in a relatively short time is outrageous. Especially doing everything to raise gasoline and diesel prices to “incentivize” Buyers to go EV.

Build it, show me the infrastructure is in place, make it affordable. Those things all need to be present for EVs to become more mainstream. They are going about this ass backwards.
I see nothing attractive to ME in electric vehicles. The tax break only helps those who might already have that amount in tax liability. I wouldnt be able to drive to Biloxi or Atlanta easily. I sure am not going to spend 60 grand on one.

[sowilts]

I am looking at a PHEV AWD Ford Maverick. Can go for a long way to play golf on battery power. Have gas when needed.

[Stu from NYC]

Road in a Tesla for the first time yesterday. What a fun and quiet car.

Was a 2022 with 9 cameras with great acceleration.

Greatly enjoyed the ride but still would not buy one.

[Byte1]

EVs are not for me. Since they are not yet ready for prime time yet, I will stick to the new car I purchased this year. My car will likely last me the rest of my life. So, why should I consider the expense of purchasing a 'lectric car? The tax break will give me absolutely nothing. The added expense to upgrade my electricity in my home would not be worth the hassle. By the time EVs are practical, I likely won't be driving, if alive at all. I have no problem with anyone that wishes to purchase one. Go for it. Great idea; novel idea. I have no intention on driving long distance, so that issue is not an issue for me. Right now, I don't trust the idea of charging LITHIUM in my garage but since I don't plan on owning an EV it's not an issue either. I would trade my battery powered golf cart for a fossil burner in a heartbeat. One of the reason I don't use it is because the batteries only get me so far, whereas a gas powered will get me five times as far on a tank of gasoline. Sure, it's an older model golf cart. I have no plan to purchase a new golf cart that costs as much as a car.
I'll stick to the fossil fuel burner, so NO I do not plan to purchase a battery powered car in the future. The air is cleaner now than when I was a kid, so I do not concern myself with pollution caused by my car. I have much more problems with pollution cause by all the pollen as a result of everyone constantly planting gardens that produce that irritant.

[Spectreron]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I don't understand the half cost for maintenance. The only maintenance I do on my car are oil changes, brakes, and tires. Oil changes are $40, and I assume that an electric vehicle needs tires and brakes. Also, can you get a brake job on an electric vehicle at a service station, or do you need to go to the dealer, and pay a lot more?

The only maintenance on a Tesla is tire rotation annually and a lube job every 100,000 miles. Brakes never wear out due to regenerative braking, and they are brakes...why couldn't a service station fix them?

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Spectreron

The only maintenance on a Tesla is tire rotation annually and a lube job every 100,000 miles. Brakes never wear out due to regenerative braking, and they are brakes...why couldn't a service station fix them?

Brakes last longer, but tires do not. I guess a service station could work on an electric vehicle but, I have asked a few, and they say that they will not. Regarding maintenance cost, here is what KBB says:

Total Cost of Owning and Maintaining a Tesla over Ten Years
Teslas will cost an average of $21,500 for maintenance and Tesla insurance. This is significantly more than the $14,700 that it would cost to maintain a standard ICE car over ten years according to KBB data (an analysis conducted by Kelly Blue Book).

[Viperguy]

Soon as they make one you can plug into a tree

[tophcfa]

Even though I don’t currently need either one, I just put in an order for a new Yamaha gas powered quiet tech and next year I’m going to get a new gas powered small SUV, either a Honda or Toyota. Fortunately, I have the garage space so both will go on mothballs until needed. Since the government is hell bent on phasing out ICE vehicles, and jamming electric down our throats, I don’t want to get caught not being able to find a new ICE vehicle (at a reasonable price) in the future. Between our current vehicles (Nissan Truck, Honda HRV, BMW 330CI, Yamaha EFI, and Club Car EFI) and the new ones in waiting, our transportation needs should be set for life.

[manaboutown]

Took delivery of a BMW X5 M50i in late September. I love it and will be driving it on road trips as I can refuel in five minutes.

[Hans53]

Lets get real on this. Where is the windmill to plug into. You charge an EV with fossil fuel generated electricity. If you want to buy one fine, but dont tell me you saving the environment.

[manaboutown]

Electric Vehicles Require Lots of Scarce Parts. Is the Supply Chain Up to It? - WSJ

[coralway]

Zero chance